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How Brexit extension might invalidate our EU election results

RightWingAnarchist

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At this point, we don't know whether Britain will be in the EU on the date of the European Elections. Therefore, in two constituencies, we don't know whether we are electing 3 or 4 MEPs. leaving aside the fact that this may interfere with parties political strategies in terms of the number of candidates they run, consider how the count would be run. In most EU countries, the election is a list system - so extra seats means going farther down the list. However in our case a quota is calculated and you are elected when you reach the quota or nobody else remains. Do we set the quota for 3 or 4 seats. If we set the quota for 4 seats, then the 4th person elected would not necessarily have been the runner up if the number of seats was 3 (because the first two elected would have sucked up more votes).

We might have to have two full bye-elections.
 


Beachcomber

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At this point, we don't know whether Britain will be in the EU on the date of the European Elections. Therefore, in two constituencies, we don't know whether we are electing 3 or 4 MEPs. leaving aside the fact that this may interfere with parties political strategies in terms of the number of candidates they run, consider how the count would be run. In most EU countries, the election is a list system - so extra seats means going farther down the list. However in our case a quota is calculated and you are elected when you reach the quota or nobody else remains. Do we set the quota for 3 or 4 seats. If we set the quota for 4 seats, then the 4th person elected would not necessarily have been the runner up if the number of seats was 3 (because the first two elected would have sucked up more votes).

We might have to have two full bye-elections.


Why is that?
 

neiphin

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uk is in or out by may 22nd the very latest
 

petaljam

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Why is that?
Because the seats held by Britain are to be redistributed to a number of countries after they leave.
If they don't leave, then those seats remain for the British EP constituencies that currently exist.

OP, that is why the EU refused May's June proposal. The extension date has to be fixed either for before the election date, or for some significant time after it, but can't be modified at the last minute around that date. In the latter case the UK would have to run candidates for the seats. The campaign would be surreal unless article 50 were to be removed as part of the process.

But yes, even at that, it's still an issue for the campaign IMO, and yet another example of how obsessively one-sided the Uk's approach has been - there has been no acknowledgment that this "inconvenience" to the EU side matters in any way. It's all been about problems the British are having. It's like negotiating with a toddler.
 
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