How do Northern Republicans feel about the British bailing out Ireland?

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With the impending billions of pounds the British government are prepared to release to save the spiraling Irish economy, I was wondering how Republicans who reject all British influence feel about this? I think it is a good thing that we are helping our neighbours in what is a necessary move to save the Irish economy, however classic Republican concerns about economic imperialism etc must be considered. Therefore the question has to be, should the south reject the British money out of principle? And if not, why not?
 


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Ever read Dave Spart in Private Eye?

Er...the imperialistic British are er...using their economic might to subjugate the economy of the Republic in a betrayal of socialist ideas they are er...ensuring their neighbour pays off the debts owed to grasping British banks to maintain the liquidity of er...failed bastions of capitalist greed and thus demonstrating their er...contempt of the Irish Republican ideals and er...rubbing comrades' noses in the mud. Mud on which was spilt the blood of generations of martyrs who have given their lives for this ideal to find that the price of dignity is £7 Bn. Plus interest, accruing at a little under market rates.
 

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With the impending billions of pounds the British government are prepared to release to save the spiraling Irish economy, I was wondering how Republicans who reject all British influence feel about this? I think it is a good thing that we are helping our neighbours in what is a necessary move to save the Irish economy, however classic Republican concerns about economic imperialism etc must be considered. Therefore the question has to be, should the south reject the British money out of principle? And if not, why not?
The UK are major stakeholders in the Irish economy, the UK export a lot of its manufacturing infrastructure and financial institutions to their neighbours, they are trying to save their own hides here. You have to ask these British citizens where were their principles when they decided to turn their backs on the UK taxpayer in the first place.

Maybe they should reject the British money and let the UK become closer to being a joint-asset of the EU/IMF imperium itself.
 
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I would think that Northern Republicans would be pleased that their taxes were being spent helping their Southern brothers.
 

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I would think that Northern Republicans would be pleased that their taxes were being spent helping their Southern brothers.
The so-called "bail-out" is said to be costing £300 per British family - which includes northern Republicans, as well as the English.
 

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The so-called "bail-out" is said to be costing £300 per British family - which includes northern Republicans, as well as the English.
I imagine a Northern Republican would prefer this to the money being spent on the vile British war machine.

The British chancellor outlined how it was in the UK tax payers interest to provide this loan so that's good enough for me.
 

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I imagine a Northern Republican would prefer this to the money being spent on the vile British war machine.

The British chancellor outlined how it was in the UK tax payers interest to provide this loan so that's good enough for me.
I'm sure even the British war machine has financial assets in the 26.
 

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It's a loan to be paid at interest.

I for one welcome it.
 

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It's a loan to be paid at interest.

I for one welcome it.
I'm no armchair economist Eogh, but they probably could have thrown the lot in with the IMF/EU bailout fund and gotten even more of a return on it considering their interest will be higher than 7%. right or wrong????

the abolsute worst part of this, from a nationalist view point, was having our lot off enjoying the sunshine on monday morning whilst London got together to see how THEY could insentivise growth in our economy. if that doesn't show ff up as a bunch of good for nothings, I don't know what will...
 

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Better the Brits than the IMF.
 

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With the impending billions of pounds the British government are prepared to release to save the spiraling Irish economy, I was wondering how Republicans who reject all British influence feel about this? I think it is a good thing that we are helping our neighbours in what is a necessary move to save the Irish economy, however classic Republican concerns about economic imperialism etc must be considered. Therefore the question has to be, should the south reject the British money out of principle? And if not, why not?
The Gombeen state never had any principle since the day it was founded, it was founded by Gombeen men in the interests of gombeen men. Anyway I say the state should reject it but the Brits are doing it out of self interest and nothing else.

The orangies weren't talking about "principle" when they were asking could beef from the north be labeled as Irish during the foot and mouth crisis, when the gombeen state was spending money on roads north of the border, when millions are been spent on retail in Newry etc
 

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As an Irish republican I view Britains financial bailout for Ireland as a form of reparations. It's been a long time coming.
 

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You mean better to keep it "in the family"? (bearing in mind we are stuck with our relatives, and do not have to like them).
Well there are a lot of English people who have Irish blood and however politically bad our relations have been they have always been culturally good, so that sentiment will come into play in their relations with us if not over ridden by brute political realities (which they have been at key points in Irish history)....However I was thinking of their economic interests...They have an interest in keeping the Irish market afloat while the IMF will just transform the country into cheap labour like they tried to do with Argentina and will feel no sentiment whatsoever for us.
 

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As an Irish republican I view Britains financial bailout for Ireland as a form of reparations. It's been a long time coming
You don't pay back reparations with interest.
It's a loan, nothing more. It's in the UKs benefit to offer it and ours to accept it.
 

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Most of the money comes from Germany not Britain.
Well the orangies are talking about the 7 Billion loan at about 5%. Britian is doing for it's own needs (understandably). Irish banks also have an important role to play in UK lending - accounting for 7% of corporate loans and 3% of household loans, according to the IMF. If the Irish banking system came down the reprecussions for the British ones would be huge to say the least. It's not a handout like the unionists having been getting billions every year to wee 'Protestant Ulster' at the expense of the poor old English tax payer.

Funny isn't it, how many times down the years the unionists have been shouting about "Lundy's......and English treatchery" :).
 

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It's not a handout like the unionists having been getting billions every year to wee 'Protestant Ulster' at the expense of the poor old English tax payer.
Perhaps if your pals hadn't spent 30 years deliberately destroying the NI economy, a strategy which dissidents seem to be revisiting in Londonderry,there might be more of an economy to speak of.

A bit like SF/IRA whinging that the RUC was a Protestant force, then targeting any Catholic that joined.

The sort of mental contortions required to hold your various, conflicting, opinions is almost impressive.
 

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Perhaps if your pals hadn't spent 30 years deliberately destroying the NI economy, a strategy which dissidents seem to be revisiting in Derry,there might be more of an economy to speak of.
Did it ever occur to you if your pals hadn't spent 70 years deliberately attacking and discriminating against nationalists their wouldn't have been any IRA campaign. No he doesn't I bet, it was orchestrated by the Pope he'll say.

A bit like SF/IRA whinging that the RUC was a Protestant force, then targeting any Catholic that joined.

The sort of mental contortions required to hold your various, conflicting, opinions is almost impressive.
It was a unionist paramilitary force, it showed it's 'impartiality' countless times such as the attacks on the Civil Rights marches, the Battle of the Bogside etc
 


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