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How do you rate Dublin city?


Colin M

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Just interested to know from those who are either lifelong Dubliners, or who have been here for a long period of time. It is a city that generates a lot of feedback - good or bad - from people living here or abroad.

For me:

Positives
World class green areas - St Stephen's Green, Merrion Sq, and of course Phoenix Park, vast and where you can just relax from the stresses of the world.

Older architecture - Ancient structures like Christ Church Cathedral, along with the historical significance of the likes of the GPO building, give the city an architectural history that few others can either match or beat.

Variety of food - something that has improved over the years, where you can get the best Mexican burritos to traditional Irish grub. In most cases it is 'value for money'.

Guinness - Best beer in the world, of course. And a successful world brand.

Negatives

'The Spire' - underwhelming, to say the least. A waste of millions.

Temple Bar - if you're not keen on getting p1ssed out of your tree, and engaging in 'the craic', it is not the place for you.

Transportation - The LUAS is still useless to those who live in the many suburbs where a stop does not exist.

Modern architecture - a lot of the post 1922 works have left a horrible mish mash with the older 'red brick' buildings, in several areas.

Divided city - it might be my own interpretation, but I don't think those living in the city really 'unify' with each other. Older Dubliners largely socialize with other older Dubliners, younger 'transplants' not originally from Dublin largely socialize with other transplants. Those from the different immigrant groups don't generally socialize with those from outside their own group. Call me too cynical on this, if you like.

Homelessness - the growing number of those sleeping on the streets is of course a depressing sight, and an uncomfortable 'sign of the times'.

Neutral
O'Connell St - it is better than it used to be, but then you see the many derelict buildings still in or around the street, and the words 'unused potential' spring to mind.
 

Niall996

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Great city, great pubs, great people. It has everything.
 

Lonewolfe

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Negative - Junkies, junkies everywhere and not a drop of smack to spare!
 

RahenyFG

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Negative - Junkies, junkies everywhere!
I was about to say that. They ruin the place. Also litter is a problem in the city despite the best attempts of the City Council and the litter unit.
 

Telemachus

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Planning.
The road layout in dublin is almost entirely organic with very little obvious planning at a district level. There are two canals which really should be converted to motorways to create some semblance of access into the city for the hundreds of thousands of trapped commuters everyday. It is clear the city does not need canals for any practical purpose.
The height limits should be removed on building.

Architecture.
There is nothing special about edwardian, georgian or victorian housing.The largest structures only have merit. Most of the rest of the old residential junk should be flattened in a replanning effort..

Social Housing.
For some reason, people are kept in the city centre on the most valuable land who cant support themselves. This should be stopped, these people could be housed in other cities for a fraction of the cost.
 

Lonewolfe

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I was about to say that. They ruin the place. Also litter is a problem in the city despite the best attempts of the City Council and the litter unit.
I'm a Dub but out of there a long time. I still love the city and the people but the junkies, while I pity them, are a scourge. They're just hanging around shouting at people and making a nuisance of themselves.

There are also a lot of Roma beggars.

Cue claims of racism, junkism etc.
 

Colin M

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I should add another positive:

Famous names - from sport, music, literature, etc. For a relatively small city, we have done quite well I think in producing many known beyond Ireland.
 

Ulster-Lad

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overrated, overpriced, oversold.
 

Lonewolfe

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I should add another positive:

Famous names - from sport, music, literature, etc. For a relatively small city, we have done quite well I think in producing many known beyond Ireland.
Punched way above the weight alright.
 

R3volution_R3ady

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Dublin is ghastly. Housing estates everywhere. No transport. Bad infrastructure.

One of the more dreary places I've been to. I don't rate a city on it's pub scene alone. In fact, if this was the case I'd still give it a bad score....if washed-up dark crap heaps is your idea of a great pub, then colour me uninterested.
 

gatsbygirl20

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Your assessment of Dublin is fair and balanced,but soon the thread will have those posts which you are probably too new on the site to remember: "Dublin is the biggest kip and sh1thole on the face of the earth. Only gombeen idiots who never left the country could think otherwise. Get out of that poisoned hell hole while you still can..." etc.etc....

I really like Dublin,and I have lived in cities abroad....its beautiful parks, as you mention (Marley Park is also lovely), its proximity to the mountains and the sea.....

I love its restaurants, bookshops,cafes....the area round Stephens Green, Dawson St etc

But it is trade that gives a city its buzz, vibrancy and atmosphere, and alas, the recession and online shopping are hitting Dublin's streets.....Amazon will soon put paid to its remaining bookshops, I fear....

The fun of chatting to the friendly, well-informed book-loving staff in Hodges Figgis and Books Upstairs will be no more...

People mourn the death of city streets, but don't seem to quite get that if they only "browse" but rarely buy, then the cafes and shops they love, will disappear...

On a recent visit to Paris the amount of homeless people shocked me...so it is not just Dublin.....
 
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RahenyFG

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I'm a Dub but out of there a long time. I still love the city and the people but the junkies, while I pity them, are a scourge. They're just hanging around shouting at people and making a nuisance of themselves.

There are also a lot of Roma beggars.

Cue claims of racism, junkism etc.
Luas Abbey St stop is a nightmare thanks to them. You go for your ticket and collect your change and you have them in your face asking for money. I never gave them money, was never harmed by them and although I rarely hide the Luas I would avoid Luas Abbey St stop like the black plague.
 

Lonewolfe

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Dublin is ghastly. Housing estates everywhere. No transport. Bad infrastructure.

One of the more dreary places I've been to. I don't rate a city on it's pub scene alone. In fact, if this was the case I'd still give it a bad score....if washed-up dark crap heaps is your idea of a great pub, then colour me uninterested.
You didn't go into the city then?
 

Mikey Moloney

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More beggars than Calcutta. Glad I am gone out of it. The Romas and junkies have free reign .
 

R3volution_R3ady

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You didn't go into the city then?
I'm from Dublin, born and bred. I know it like the back of my hand.

I oppose these endless council estates.
 

R3volution_R3ady

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Planning.There is nothing special about edwardian, georgian or victorian housing.The largest structures only have merit. Most of the rest of the old residential junk should be flattened in a replanning effort...
What exactly would you have knocked? And kept? I'm trying to get an idea here...
 

Lonewolfe

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I'm from Dublin, born and bred. I know it like the back of my hand.

I oppose these endless council estates.
Then you'll know they're not endless.

There are none in the city centre - which is really what we're talking about. I mean, when you visit any city you don't go to see the suburbs.

Of course the alternative to the council estates are large rise flats - not great either.
 

R3volution_R3ady

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Then you'll know they're not endless.

There are none in the city centre - which is really what we're talking about. I mean, when you visit any city you don't go to see the suburbs.

Of course the alternative to the council estates are large rise flats - not great either.
I've no problem with skyscrapers. It seems in Ireland only the unions have this option.
 

R3volution_R3ady

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You do realize they were built, so people could have a roof over their head?
On prime land in the centre of Dublin City?!?!

When were they built? A long time ago. If you're living off your neighbour, you don't get to live in Beverly Hills.
 
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