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How Do You View Marshall Tito?


General Urko

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I'm just after viewing a documentary on the Yougoslavian film industry which prospered when he was in power, he was quite a film buff. Indeed there was a film made starring Richard Burton as him and approved by him - "Sutjeska" about the WW2 battle, where Tito was wounded. Had he died there, the course of Balkan history would probably have turned out differently! Tito, a Croat with a Slovenian mother seemed to have an incredible ability to play the various Yougoslav nationalities off each other, a true genius! Yougoslavia seems to have been a vastly freer communist state than any of the others! yes I know, the Yougoslav secret service murdered a few 'enemies of the state' in West Germany, but by and large it seemed a vastly more sane country than the other communist darling of the West, Romania! I have heard the USA contributed considerable funds to assist its economy as it was seen as a bullwork against Soviet expansion. There is little doubt that had The USSR/Warsaw Pact got involved in messing there, it would have been resisted as the Nazis were!
So what do ye make of Marshall Josip Broz Tito?
 

Eoin Coir

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Yes he was his own man and not a puppet of Moscow. But how he kept his country together is a matter of intrigue now ,was it all going to unravel after him, and what influence did fall of iron curtain have. What happened in Balkans was a failure of UN & EU, best typified by the "Safe" haven of Srebrenica. The great satan,the US comes well out of this mess.
 

Prester Jim

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Through a camera I buried in his grave.




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Josip Broz

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How Do You View Marshall Tito?

In the mirror.
 

owedtojoy

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I'm just after viewing a documentary on the Yougoslavian film industry which prospered when he was in power, he was quite a film buff. Indeed there was a film made starring Richard Burton as him and approved by him - "Sutjeska" about the WW2 battle, where Tito was wounded. Had he died there, the course of Balkan history would probably have turned out differently! Tito, a Croat with a Slovenian mother seemed to have an incredible ability to play the various Yougoslav nationalities off each other, a true genius! Yougoslavia seems to have been a vastly freer communist state than any of the others! yes I know, the Yougoslav secret service murdered a few 'enemies of the state' in West Germany, but by and large it seemed a vastly more sane country than the other communist darling of the West, Romania! I have heard the USA contributed considerable funds to assist its economy as it was seen as a bullwork against Soviet expansion. There is little doubt that had The USSR/Warsaw Pact got involved in messing there, it would have been resisted as the Nazis were!
So what do ye make of Marshall Josip Broz Tito?
Like so many Dictators, he may have started with good intentions, but he failed to legitimise authoritarian, centralised rule or the state he had created. The whole structure was based on his personal authority as a leader of the World War II resistance and he was literally irreplaceable.

After he died, centrifugal forces pulled the component states apart and led to devastating civil wars. Those wars were the failures of his successors, but they were partly his failures also.

Dictatorships have serious problems with maintaining an uncontested line of succession, a problem which democracy has solved and which is one of it's main advantages.
 

dresden8

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Dictatorships have serious problems with maintaining an uncontested line of succession, a problem which democracy has solved and which is one of it's main advantages.
And people slag off North Korea.
 

Little_Korean

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I'm just after viewing a documentary on the Yougoslavian film industry which prospered when he was in power, he was quite a film buff. Indeed there was a film made starring Richard Burton as him and approved by him - "Sutjeska" about the WW2 battle, where Tito was wounded.
Tito seems to have been quite the movie fanboy:



Actor Kirk Douglas Greeting Yugoslav Leader Josip Broz Tito - U1720642 - Rights Managed - Stock Photo - Corbis

So was the late Kim Jong-Il, come to think of it. All that fantasy and fiction must chime in nicely with their worldview.
 

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In 1944 the SS tried to capture Tito.

But it turned into a massacre, most of the SS were killed or wounded
 

Hitch 22

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There were a number of war epics made in the Communist Bloc during the 1960s and 1970s with gigantic budgets and casts of thousands.

The Communists had lots of T-34 Soviet tanks and lots of captured German equipment and weapons, plenty of money to build vast sets that could be blown up with a explosives and lots of cash to throw at Hollywood stars.

Richard Burton acted as Tito in Sutjeska

[video=youtube;yjnSvMY1X1s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjnSvMY1X1s[/video]

The Battle of Sutjeska (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Another film worth checking out is the Battle of Neretva starring Yul Brynner, Hardy Kruger and Kurt Jurgens.

[video=youtube;wO2fpVgAfyM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO2fpVgAfyM[/video]

Here is a list of Yugoslav movies submitted for best foreign language movie to the Academy Awards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Yugoslav_submissions_for_the_Academy_Award _for_Best_Foreign_Language_Film

Yugoslav during World War 2 was complex.

Tito's Communist partisans fought against Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Hungary, Bulgaria, the the puppet governments of the Independent State of Croatia and the Government of National Salvation between 1941 and 1944.

When the Soviets rolled into Eastern Europe during 1944-1945 the Tito's partisans joined forces with them and the Bulgarians who by that time turned against the Nazis. An estimated 1,200,000 died in five years during seven major German led offensives against the partisans.
 
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