How long has this Government got left, when will Micheál Martin make his move?

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With concern growing in Political circles over the fallout from the Maire Whelan alleged "cronyism" affair and the claims today that Fianna Fail will vote against Mary Mitchell O'Connors massive pay rise ( I say massive as ordinary punters are being offered 1% NEXT JANUARY ).

Ministers Shane Ross and Finian McGrath are to release a statement later which will condemn Ms Whelan's appointment to the Court of Criminal Appeal.

What will it take for Martin to grow a pair?

How much longer will FF TD's continue to take it in the neck from Constituents before dumping Martin?


http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/taoiseach-defends-decision-to-appoint-maire-whelan-as-judge-as-independent-alliance-prepare-to-criticise-process-35833951.html
 


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Until the poll figures look enticing. Miriam's bro smells blood though.
 

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Until the poll figures look enticing. Miriam's bro smells blood though.
Martin passed up a few chances when FF had half decent figures, he would not make a good gambler as he only wants to bet on a sure thing.
 

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Martin passed up a few chances when FF had half decent figures, he would not make a good gambler as he only wants to bet on a sure thing.
I agree 100% with you.

FF was rejected by the electorate - but in the grand scheme of things, when this country needs to be pulled up by the bootstraps, FF will be asked to lead the way.

It may not be in 5 years, it may not even be in 10 years, but believe you me, that day will come and FF will lead us out of the darkness into which FG/Leo are blindly leading us.


Cowen was the bravest Taoiseach this country ever experienced.
He sacrificed the FF Party in order to save the country.

Bring in the IMF was an act of bravery - he knew this would kill his political career but he put the needs of the nurses, guards, teachers to the fore and ensured there was enough cash in the ATMs after the big financial institution went belly up.

He passed legislation in the dying days of his government which took the onus of FG/Leo to make the hard decisions.

There are indeed parallels to Benedict XVI, who sacrificed his pontificate in order to save the RCC.


I think at the time of the next election we will have matured as a nation and will appreciate the former Taoiseach and have great admiration for his role in bringing peace to Northern Ireland.

I think after Mr. Higgins term comes to an end the country will be fatiqued by Labour and Fine Gael and will long for the great days of yesteryear when we were the poster boys of Europe before the big financial institution stateside went wallop.

Time is a great healer.
Great statesmen should become heads of state.

Mr. Martin is a great leader.
He will be a great Taoiseach and hopefully also a great President.
 

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Given Tessie's crap performance in the UK would Martin do well to hold for a while or go now and take Leo out in his infancy in the Taoiseach's office? - Youngest ever and the shortest?
 

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With concern growing in Political circles over the fallout from the Maire Whelan alleged "cronyism" affair and the claims today that Fianna Fail will vote against Mary Mitchell O'Connors massive pay rise ( I say massive as ordinary punters are being offered 1% NEXT JANUARY ).

Ministers Shane Ross and Finian McGrath are to release a statement later which will condemn Ms Whelan's appointment to the Court of Criminal Appeal.

What will it take for Martin to grow a pair?

How much longer will FF TD's continue to take it in the neck from Constituents before dumping Martin?


http://www.independent.ie/irish After what happened to Theresa May, no Irish politician will risk instigating a snap election for quite some time. I would not rule out the confidence and supply arrangement lasting its 3 years, with a GE in May 2019 to coincide with the locals and Euros.
 

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Martin will act once he commissions one last report.

After that he will definitely act on a second report.
 

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Martin will have to be careful when he decides to call an election. If FF don't become the biggest party after the next election he's toast.

By the way SF could pull the plug on the present government by negotiating a coalition with FF, but they are afraid of assuming the responsibility of being in government here, which is also the case in other jurisdictions.
 

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With concern growing in Political circles over the fallout from the Maire Whelan alleged "cronyism" affair and the claims today that Fianna Fail will vote against Mary Mitchell O'Connors massive pay rise ( I say massive as ordinary punters are being offered 1% NEXT JANUARY ).

Ministers Shane Ross and Finian McGrath are to release a statement later which will condemn Ms Whelan's appointment to the Court of Criminal Appeal.

What will it take for Martin to grow a pair?

How much longer will FF TD's continue to take it in the neck from Constituents before dumping Martin?


Taoiseach defends decision to appoint Maire Whelan as judge as Independent Alliance prepare to criticise process - Independent.ie
Seemingly, the FFailures have a €3.5 million party debt after GE 2016.
The'll probably need to clear this first, either by re-opening the Galway Tent or (and as they are to all intents and purposes the same as FG so this might be more lightly) by getting a Maltese Tax Exile to clear their party debt.
 

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Martin will have to be careful when he decides to call an election. If FF don't become the biggest party after the next election he's toast.

By the way SF could pull the plug on the present government by negotiating a coalition with FF, but they are afraid of assuming the responsibility of being in government here, which is also the case in other jurisdictions.
Tricky Mickey has refused outright to form any coalition with SF, but you know that already.
 

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Follow the money..,
- does the party have a war chest?
- does it's corrupt members have their Burke/Flynn bribes?
- is there a large fiscal space to bribe the electorate with their own money?

If not, relax.
 

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I think logically Martin will revoke the confidence and supply agreement with FG when he is sure FF will win an election and out number FG.

The most logical path then would be for FF and FG to go into coalition together with FG as minority partner.

Seeing as both say they don't see Sinn Fein as a prospective partner I doubt they would do a deal.
 

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The fact that both FF and FG are still unable to accept that neither of them have ANY chance of an overall majority in the foreseeable future is what has both of them frozen at the moment. Fine Gael are happy to hang on in there by the skin of their teeth and with the full backing of a Fianna Fail party who have yet to realise that there is no way that they will get that bounce that their failed leader is stupidly waiting for.
 

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With concern growing in Political circles over the fallout from the Maire Whelan alleged "cronyism" affair and the claims today that Fianna Fail will vote against Mary Mitchell O'Connors massive pay rise ( I say massive as ordinary punters are being offered 1% NEXT JANUARY ).

Ministers Shane Ross and Finian McGrath are to release a statement later which will condemn Ms Whelan's appointment to the Court of Criminal Appeal.

What will it take for Martin to grow a pair?

How much longer will FF TD's continue to take it in the neck from Constituents before dumping Martin?


Taoiseach defends decision to appoint Maire Whelan as judge as Independent Alliance prepare to criticise process - Independent.ie
FF will just do their usual posturing to pretend that they are actually in opposition, There will be a big kerfuffle, they'll all come to a compromise and the whole charade will carry on.
 

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With concern growing in Political circles over the fallout from the Maire Whelan alleged "cronyism" affair and the claims today that Fianna Fail will vote against Mary Mitchell O'Connors massive pay rise ( I say massive as ordinary punters are being offered 1% NEXT JANUARY ).

Ministers Shane Ross and Finian McGrath are to release a statement later which will condemn Ms Whelan's appointment to the Court of Criminal Appeal.

What will it take for Martin to grow a pair?

How much longer will FF TD's continue to take it in the neck from Constituents before dumping Martin?


http://www.independent.ie/irish After what happened to Theresa May, no Irish politician will risk instigating a snap election for quite some time. I would not rule out the confidence and supply arrangement lasting its 3 years, with a GE in May 2019 to coincide with the locals and Euros.[/QUOTE] Think about it.............. How can FF gain anything from supporting everything FG do and then at some stage pull the plug and go looking for votes on the basis of the party that they fully backed being the bad guys?
 

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Martin passed up a few chances when FF had half decent figures, he would not make a good gambler as he only wants to bet on a sure thing.
Maybe that is a good gambler.
 


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