So what - totally different situation - but anyway let us look at stats. Vietnam is a country of about 80 million people. according to Vietnamese . The Vietnamese in 1995 said that 1 million of their combatants died. So if we say that the Nationalist people NOW have 800000 we would expect, in a comparable situation - that 1 in 80 would be killed. However if we substitute killed with imprisoned we get a figure of 10000 people - damn that coincidence. If the IRA were able to sustain a yearly attrition of these amounts it shows a high amount of personnel consistently joining. And for all those who joined how many sympathisers existed? I would say that this is representative of massive number of support and you may wish to through those figures around - that is just nit picking. The point is that there is sustained and massive support demonstratedAindriu said:334 people a year imprisoned - I would guess that the Vietcong and North Vietnamese Armies lost far more than that a year in their "armed struggle".William said:beardyboy said:yes - only 8000 to 10000 imprisoned - no support there thenAindriu said:Possibly, although the fact that they were also riddled with informers right up to high levels did not help. They also had nowhere near as much public support in the north as they would lead people to believe and had very little support in the ROI.William said:So the British Army lost 763 men killed,
while the IRA lost 276 and according to wikipedia (citing a book called Provisional IRA (1988)) about 8000-10000 IRA members were imprisoned.
The Troubles was certainly special when realizing that the counter-insurgency forces were more willing to sacrifice their men than the guerilla force fighting them.
Maybe the main reason the IRA lost where the Vietcong and others succeded?Anyway, if just a fraction of those thousands of volunteers imprisoned had resist arrest and made a last stand, then the number of dead security forces would maybe have been the double of what it ended up with?Sure, but the conflict stretched over nearly 30 years, so that isnt really that big a number.
One just has to assume that they weren't willing to give up their lifelong dreams of riding on the Marrakesh Express or I don't know...having their own IT-Company..?