How real is Donegal's 35,000 acre wind-farm?

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It sounds great. An English businessman was done for speeding and faced jail time, but his Irish associate Mr Shortt appeared in court in Oxford and said that jail would endanger a Donegal €1-billion wind farm project on 35,000 acres (14,100 Ha). The evidence was not challenged so the judge went along with it. An obliging friend.


‘This is Oxfordshire’ reported that although Judge Eccles believes he ‘deserved’ to go to jail, he spared him the time behind bars following evidence given from Irish engineer and property developer Noel Shortt that Chase-Sarver’s stint in jail would ‘sink’ their plans for a billion-euro 35,000 acre wind farm in Donegal which will create 300 jobs.
The 35,000 acre site was bought from more than 100 individual farmers.


Finance manager dodges jail time as it would disrupt plans of billion-Euro Donegal wind farm – Donegal Daily....
Jail avoided after threat cited to Donegal wind farm

Mr Shortt said he had lease agreements with more than 100 farmers in Donegal for the 35,000-acre site. The project must be up and running by December 2017 or it would lose a Government subsidy, Mr Shortt told the Oxford court, adding this means turbines would need to be ordered by November this year. The cost of phase one of the nine-phase project, the installation of 13 turbines, would be €60 million, he said in evidence – with the overall cost estimated at around €1 billion.

However, Donegal County Council said yesterday that it was unaware of any planning application for such a development and Mr Shortt could not be contacted.


http://www.irishtimes.com/business/energy-and-resources/jail-avoided-after-threat-cited-to-donegal-wind-farm-1.2806499


Sounds like the 35,000 acres were subject to options but not "bought". The deal will rely on a state subsidy anyway. There is no planning consent. Wouldn't we all love to beat a stretch by claiming to be involved with a 1,000-windmill project in Dublin Bay that has no planning and as yet no major finance? :lol:

This is the sort of case that gives green promoters a bad name. Or not? - discuss.
 
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Read that earlier, sounds extraordinary. If fibs were told to avoid a jail sentence, extradition proceedings might be on the cards soon.
We await developments.
 

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Read that earlier, sounds extraordinary. If fibs were told to avoid a jail sentence, extradition proceedings might be on the cards soon.
We await developments.

Not for a speeding case. I'd be very careful investing in wind farms in that neck of the woods tho.
 

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Brown envelop bonanza.
 

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One thing to remember is that Trump doesn't really operate in reality - he'll just keep going on about how great he is and how great his performance in the debate was so that he can create a reality distortion field.

If you keep saying something enough times in the media, it starts to stick.
 

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This thread is worth reading
 

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It sounds great. An English businessman was done for speeding and faced jail time, but his Irish associate Mr Shortt appeared in court in Oxford and said that jail would endanger a Donegal €1-billion wind farm project on 35,000 acres (14,100 Ha). The evidence was not challenged so the judge went along with it. An obliging friend.


‘This is Oxfordshire’ reported that although Judge Eccles believes he ‘deserved’ to go to jail, he spared him the time behind bars following evidence given from Irish engineer and property developer Noel Shortt that Chase-Sarver’s stint in jail would ‘sink’ their plans for a billion-euro 35,000 acre wind farm in Donegal which will create 300 jobs.
The 35,000 acre site was bought from more than 100 individual farmers.


Finance manager dodges jail time as it would disrupt plans of billion-Euro Donegal wind farm – Donegal Daily....
Jail avoided after threat cited to Donegal wind farm

Mr Shortt said he had lease agreements with more than 100 farmers in Donegal for the 35,000-acre site. The project must be up and running by December 2017 or it would lose a Government subsidy, Mr Shortt told the Oxford court, adding this means turbines would need to be ordered by November this year. The cost of phase one of the nine-phase project, the installation of 13 turbines, would be €60 million, he said in evidence – with the overall cost estimated at around €1 billion.

However, Donegal County Council said yesterday that it was unaware of any planning application for such a development and Mr Shortt could not be contacted.


Jail avoided after threat cited to Donegal wind farm


Sounds like the 35,000 acres were subject to options but not "bought". The deal will rely on a state subsidy anyway. There is no planning consent. Wouldn't we all love to beat a stretch by claiming to be involved with a 1,000-windmill project in Dublin Bay that has no planning and as yet no major finance? :lol:

This is the sort of case that gives green promoters a bad name. Or not? - discuss.

http://www.housing.gov.ie/sites/default/files/migrated-files/en/DevelopmentHousing/PlanningDevelopment/Planning/PublicConsultations/Submissions-WindEnergy/Unspecified/FileDownLoad,36647,en.doc
To whom it may concern,

The present planning system in Ireland for the purposes of obtaining PP for renewable energy projects is a joke. I personally applied for planning permission for a wind farm in Donegal about six years ago. It was the largest application of its kind in Ireland at that time. We received approximately seventy objections from all around the country and even received submissions from Spain, France and the UK. What sort of farcical process is this when some tree-hugger in France can object to a wind farm application in the back of beyond in Donegal ?? Seriously guys, are we really serious about having a renewable energy industry in Ireland ? We have the best wind resources in the world and at this time and not one of the top ten world wide wind farm developers is present or operating in Ireland. Imagine Saudi Arabia without Shell or BP or Exon ? Does this not seriously tell you something ? We are regarded as the "Basket Case" country of the industry. We have the potential to totally change the economic future of our island but there is no will to do so.
There are two individuals in Cavan who object to every single wind farm application in the country. They do so for the express interest of lining the pockets of the private Law Firm which represents An Bord Pleanala and the EPA. This fraud accounts for millions of euro per year being squandered on legal fees. It has made them tens of millions over the last ten years. The evidence is available in plain sight on the Internet. I personally reported it to the Department via Pat Rabbit's office and other politicians but was told quite bluntly that it was too big a jar of worms to open. Typical Ireland ! We are incapable of governing ourselves or any level of accountability or regularisation.
Honestly, if you are going to do something about our system then do it ! No more talking shops or expert reports. Every other country can do it. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Where else on earth would you get a situation where two or three misinformed and ill educated people can deprive tens of thousands of households of green energy which is produced in our own country and not dependent on international politics ? Its a joke ! We are a joke !

Yours Sincerely,

Noel Shortt
son of Frank Shortt?


Noel Shortt's Profile


Director of Cronacarkfree Wind Limited


previously pitched for an oil/gas licence as part of Grianan Energy Ltd http://www.enviro-solutions.com/dailynews/licences-exploration.htm didn't get it threatened to sue http://politico.ie/archive/donegal-company-sue-over-gas-decision

a case was started 2007 913 JR GRIANAN ENERGY LTD -V- MINISTER FOR COMMUNICATIONS ENERGY & NATURAL


seems to specialise in bidding for huge projects he hasn't a hope of completing in order to be rejected and then complain about it

Donegal planning search is POS http://www.donegalcoco.ie/services/planning/planningapplicationsearch/
 
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This guy is living in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks they'll be up and running in little over a year and no sign of a planning application, which by the way due to its size would go straight to Bord Pleanala.
 

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Sounds just like your average wind speculator. Interesting how few live anywhere near their subsidy sucking ugly white elephants that are steadily destroying the landscape in place like Donegal.
 

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This guy is living in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks they'll be up and running in little over a year and no sign of a planning application, which by the way due to its size would go straight to Bord Pleanala.

Yes. But they have time on their hands up there

>>Spark<<

.....what if we set up a wind farm and got someone else to pay for it, and someone else to pay for the power lines linking it to the consumers, and someone else paying for back-up power when the wind ain't blowing, and someone else paying to buy my shares when I sell out to Big Power.


I think we've learned that wind power is good at the local level, but too expensive on the large scale, even in Ireland.
 

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