How/should Ireland seriously plan for us exiting EU ? Would it aid the UK ?

cyberianpan

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In my experience the Sir Humphrey's running Ireland don't do in depth analysis of alternatives / contingency planning ... the Iveagh House mandarins managed a minor coup d'état earlier this year shortly after the Brexit vote (Hollande sold a wind farm pup for a hard Brexit promise)

Ireland must plan for possible EU breakup, says economic adviser
Ireland should be drawing up contingency plans for the EU unravelling after Brexit and a possible French departure, an economic adviser to successive Irish governments has said.

... Marine Le Pen, becomes president of France next year...“If France exits the EU, Ireland would lose a major ally in debates over the common agricultural policy (CAP)
This current government does everything in its power to stifle dissent / debate on foreign affairs ... this is as ... behind closed doors, in smoke filled Brussels rooms, the government is not accountable (and doubtless they enjoy the lackeys blowing said smoke up their asses, whilst partaking of snifters of brandy)

Should we seriously plan for a potential EU exit ?
What might such planning constitute ?
How might it smooth Brexit ?

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In my experience the Sir Humphrey's running Ireland don't do in depth analysis of alternatives / contingency planning ... the Iveagh House mandarins managed a minor coup d'état earlier this year shortly after the Brexit vote (Hollande sold a wind farm pup for a hard Brexit promise)

Ireland must plan for possible EU breakup, says economic adviser


This current government does everything in its power to stifle dissent / debate on foreign affairs ... this is as ... behind closed doors, in smoke filled Brussels rooms, the government is not accountable (and doubtless they enjoy the lackeys blowing said smoke up their asses, whilst partaking of snifters of brandy)

Should we seriously plan for a potential EU exit ?
What might such planning constitute ?
How might it smooth Brexit ?

cyp
We are not going to wreck our economy just to keep a few lunatics happy who want Ireland to be part of English's greater sphere of influence. England doesn't rule us anymore, get over it.
 

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We are not going to wreck our economy just to keep a few lunatics happy who want Ireland to be part of English's greater sphere of influence. England doesn't rule us anymore, get over it.
A guy from Dundalk put it well last night - if our neighbour decides to burn their house down, it doesn't mean we should jump into the flames.
 

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In my experience the Sir Humphrey's running Ireland don't do in depth analysis of alternatives / contingency planning ... the Iveagh House mandarins managed a minor coup d'état earlier this year shortly after the Brexit vote (Hollande sold a wind farm pup for a hard Brexit promise)

Ireland must plan for possible EU breakup, says economic adviser


This current government does everything in its power to stifle dissent / debate on foreign affairs ... this is as ... behind closed doors, in smoke filled Brussels rooms, the government is not accountable (and doubtless they enjoy the lackeys blowing said smoke up their asses, whilst partaking of snifters of brandy)

Should we seriously plan for a potential EU exit ?
What might such planning constitute ?
How might it smooth Brexit ?

cyp
Build a navy capable of patrolling our greatest natural resource effectively.
 

Truth.ie

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Ireland needs to get out.
What the UK does is irrelevant.
We need to be able to hold account the people who make decisions for us and the EU does not cater for that.
If you support democracy and self determination you cant possibly remain in the EU.
 

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The question is can the EU in its current format survive ? The referendum in Italy next month is not going to help if it's lost when combined with the upcoming French elections.

What happens once the British trigger article 50 will dictate the time scale. If they force a hard Brexit on the British, they will be seen as been undemoctatic and fuel the far right. If they go softly softly, then there is a fear that others may not see leaving as a disaster. Basically they are f****d either way.

We should be planning worst case for a disorderly break up and the also begin planning for what ever change will happen and how best we can benefit from it.

Brexit and Trumps election proves we must plan for any contiguency.
 

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The sensible thing would be to rejoin the UK.

In the bleak Ireland of the early Sixties, the playwright Brendan Behan suggested that the republic should be returned to the Queen with a note apologising for the state successive independent governments had reduced it to. Owing to the then profound anti-Britishness of the Irish public, few agreed, but it is a sentiment one often hears expressed these days, although about Brussels rather than London: "We've made such a mess of things, the EU couldn't do worse."
RDE, Daily Telegraph, 19 Sep 2009
Europe: will Ireland do the indecent thing? - Telegraph
 

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after defaulting on Euro debt when the bond market implodes we can do a Braveheart style bend over and tell Europe where to go.
The only thing is Ireland needs to be plugged into something, if there is some kind of US UK alliance we get very friendly with it
 

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I don't think the actual English Sir Humphries did their analysis either. If they can't, in the absence of a strong unifying narrative, what hope do we have?
 

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Ireland needs to get out.
What the UK does is irrelevant.
We need to be able to hold account the people who make decisions for us and the EU does not cater for that.
If you support democracy and self determination you cant possibly remain in the EU.
No we don't.
 
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The question is can the EU in its current format survive ? The referendum in Italy next month is not going to help if it's lost when combined with the upcoming French elections.

What happens once the British trigger article 50 will dictate the time scale. If they force a hard Brexit on the British, they will be seen as been undemoctatic and fuel the far right. If they go softly softly, then there is a fear that others may not see leaving as a disaster. Basically they are f****d either way.

We should be planning worst case for a disorderly break up and the also begin planning for what ever change will happen and how best we can benefit from it.

Brexit and Trumps election proves we must plan for any contiguency.
Certainly, we should be planning for worst case scenarios but that's not the same as planning to execute them.

The part of your post that I've put in bold - how would that be undemocratic? Many Brexiteers are arguing precisely for a hard Brexit.
 

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Certainly, we should be planning for worst case scenarios but that's not the same as planning to execute them.

The part of your post that I've put in bold - how would that be undemocratic? Many Brexiteers are arguing precisely for a hard Brexit.
Hard Brexit and Soft Brexit was not on the ballot paper.
Brexiteers want Brexit.
 
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Hard Brexit and Soft Brexit was not on the ballot paper.
Brexiteers want Brexit.
And what does that involve? You don't know? Don't worry - nor does Theresa May or anyone in her administration.

This farcical proposal was never properly defined so no-one can say what is democratic or what isn't.
 


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