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How to leave the Catholic Church?



cactusflower

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Just leave. The fact that the Catholic Church might misrepresent the membership figures should not draw you into in any way seeking their permission or acknowledgement of your status. The chances are they'll misrepresent the figures even if you do write to them.

Its your own decision you are free to make.
 
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Wasn't there a story some years back about some lad in Dublin who wrote letters etc. to the Archbishop "resigning" from the Church, and the Church basically said "Well you can say what you like but once in ye can't get out as far as we're concerned?"

Even excommunication doesn't actually remove you from the Church permanently. It's the religious equivalent of having to sleep on the sofa for a few nights after annoying herself.
 

darkknight

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If someone wishes to leave, simply abstaining from attendance at Mass, etc., may not provide sufficient emotional satisfaction.

Completing the document linked above is a useful step:




There is also a 'formal declaration of defection' available online. This can be sent to the parish in which one was baptised, requesting your removal from the parish's register of baptisms. With your removal from the register, you are no longer entitled to other sacraments requiring baptism (Communion, Marriage, Last Rites, etc.). This formal step may be more satisfactory for those wishing to leave the Church:


ACTUS FORMALIS DEFECTIONIS AB ECCLESIA CATHOLICA

(Cfr. Can. 1086 §1, 1117 & 1124)

To the Parish priest of the parish of: .................................................................................................

Address ………………………………………………..................................... .................................... date............................

SUBJECT: Request for formal defection from the Catholic Church

I, the undersigned ........................................................................................ born on the date ......................... and baptised in the parish of ..................................................... formally declare that I make an unequivocal personal, conscious and free decision to leave the Roman Catholic Apostolic Church.

My baptism, made against my will, should be considered null and void.

I ask that this decision be noted in writing in the baptismal registry as a “defectio ab Ecclesia catholica actu formali” as per cfr.can.535, §2.

Please find enclosed photocopy of photo identification document.

Yours truly,

………………………………………………………………

Signature Date






Note: confirmation that the above method is valid is available at the Vatican's own website:

ACTUS FORMALIS DEFECTIONIS AB ECCLESIA CATHOLICA
 
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Fr. Fahey

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Anyone considering resigning from the Church should also reconsider their membership and support for FF, FG and Labour who were part of Governments that handed over children to be abused by the creatures who ran the institutions. In Ireland the abusers were often Catholic clergy, in Britain they were secular 'care workers', in eastern Europe they were often Communist party members. Child abuse was endemic in such institutions across the world up to the 1980s, and no doubt still takes place. It was not a peculiar Irish or Catholic phenomenon and indeed this country is one of the few to have had such an open public bringing to account of the institutions and some of the individuals who were guilty of such appalling practises. How many people were convicted in Wales in relation to the Gwnynd abuses that took place over many decades? There were similar cover ups there and the point was made that in Britain, along with Cleveland House, that it was one of the few institutions subject to such an inquiry.
 

cashinhand

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You're asking the right question, no doubt about it.

Would Jesus remain a member of the Catholic Church after the latest child abuse report?

I think not.

I left the church when I was seventeen mainly because of the hocus pocus.

This hocus pocus has served, I now understand, to be an incense-smokescreen to cover avarice, sexual abuse, hypocrisy and lust for limelight and power.

The Church should call a general meeting and put all its assets in public trust to provide land for the homeless, food and clothing for the poor, and to serve the needs of those who they abused.

I always mark "no religion" on census and other forms. I tell people I am not a member if they ask, or if it is relevant.

I have great respect for some people who happen to be clergy, but they too should consider publicly resigning from this criminal insititution. I am sure the good ones among them will find alms from the public for their good works: they would be left without food and shelter in the short term, but their bravery would attract public support.

In land and assets, the Catholic Church is probably the richest organisation in the world: it is not some kind of spiritual beacon; in fact, I am afraid it has degenerated into its opposite.

Many will find this all hard to take, but the "truth shall set you free".
 

blacbloc

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This issue should be a deal breaker for lots of people. As should celibacy for priests and nuns and the ban on women priests.

Time to get back to real Christianity. Jesus was a subversive who liked to party and hung out with prostitutes and all the 'sinners' of society. That's where he preached his message of love and forgiveness. The institution of the church is embalmed in wealth and power - now an icon of everything it is supposed not to be. There either needs to be a revolution within the church itself or followers of the true message of Jesus should set up a truly catholic church that is true to its own beliefs.
 

cactusflower

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Wasn't there a story some years back about some lad in Dublin who wrote letters etc. to the Archbishop "resigning" from the Church, and the Church basically said "Well you can say what you like but once in ye can't get out as far as we're concerned?"

Even excommunication doesn't actually remove you from the Church permanently. It's the religious equivalent of having to sleep on the sofa for a few nights after annoying herself.
It doesn't matter what the Church says or thinks. The whole thing is based on the big lie that there is such a thing as their God.
 

Fr. Fahey

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Well cactus, you don't actually know if there is or is not a god!

Perhaps it is an illusion but there are also millions of people who persist in other illusions like socialism, and in the face of the evidence of the many millions of murders committed in the name of that particular brand of snake oil. Who would you imagine murdered and raped more children Cactus, the Christian Brothers or the NKVD?
 

Just Us

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Well cactus, you don't actually know if there is or is not a god!

Perhaps it is an illusion but there are also millions of people who persist in other illusions like socialism, and in the face of the evidence of the many millions of murders committed in the name of that particular brand of snake oil. Who would you imagine murdered and raped more children Cactus, the Christian Brothers or the NKVD?
has everyone heard about the dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac?
...who stayed up all night long, wondering if there was a dog?
 

Glennshane

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"I left the church when I was seventeen.

The Church should call a general meeting and put all its assets in public trust to provide land for the homeless, food and clothing for the poor, and to serve the needs of those who they abused."


Now, now, now, you are being naughty, very, very naughty. You left the Catholic Church when you were 17 and now, you dare, suggest what the Church should do. Please, mind your own business. You left and that is your right. But, now, you dare preach at those whom you left behind.

"I am sure the good ones among them will find alms from the public for their good works: they would be left without food and shelter in the short term, but their bravery would attract public support."

What are you doing for the poor? Why is charity so often left to the religious organisations, those despised religious organisations?

"The truth shall set you free, now you are free."
 

locke

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In theory I should have been excommunicated.

I stood as a Godfather in a Presbyterian baptism.

I had no idea this could have got me in trouble til I was told so by a priest and having investigated it turns out he was right. But then his suggestion was to keep quiet and nobody would ever find out. A bit like the gays in the military line.

Mind you, I haven't attended mass since I was 15, so it's not the most worrying scenario.
 

MauriceColgan

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Well cactus, you don't actually know if there is or is not a god!

Perhaps it is an illusion but there are also millions of people who persist in other illusions like socialism, and in the face of the evidence of the many millions of murders committed in the name of that particular brand of snake oil. Who would you imagine murdered and raped more children Cactus, the Christian Brothers or the NKVD?
The religious of course, they have been around for thousands of years on every continent.

The Holy Grail of Rock 'n' Roll.
 

cactusflower

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Well cactus, you don't actually know if there is or is not a god!

Perhaps it is an illusion but there are also millions of people who persist in other illusions like socialism, and in the face of the evidence of the many millions of murders committed in the name of that particular brand of snake oil. Who would you imagine murdered and raped more children Cactus, the Christian Brothers or the NKVD?
Yes I do. I also know that there are no fairies, no ectoplasm and no Goddess Kali.

Socialism isn't an illusion, its a political ideology. Karl Marx was an objectively real person. You don't have to agree with it to know it exists. I don't dispute that religion exists: its the supposed god and spirits that don't.
 

imokyrok

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I too left the catholic church when I was 17 although I started questioning it from the age of about 12. I find the shock horror of catholics in the last few days bemusing though. That this type of behaviour was commonplace in the CC has been common knowledge for twenty years now. Why all the surprise?
 

Fr. Fahey

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Yes I do. I also know that there are no fairies, no ectoplasm and no Goddess Kali.

Socialism isn't an illusion, its a political ideology. Karl Marx was an objectively real person. You don't have to agree with it to know it exists. I don't dispute that religion exists: its the supposed god and spirits that don't.

Socialism is an illusion and proven to be but only after maybe 2/300 million deliberate deaths. Karl Marx was of course an objectively real person, whose erroneous prophecies led to the said deaths.

Maurice if you seriously believe that the Catholic Church has caused more death than socialism I would suggest you spend less time listening to Elvis and more time reading some history.
 

iartaoiseach

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Anyone considering resigning from the Church should also reconsider their membership and support for FF, FG and Labour who were part of Governments that handed over children to be abused by the creatures who ran the institutions. In Ireland the abusers were often Catholic clergy, in Britain they were secular 'care workers', in eastern Europe they were often Communist party members. Child abuse was endemic in such institutions across the world up to the 1980s, and no doubt still takes place. It was not a peculiar Irish or Catholic phenomenon and indeed this country is one of the few to have had such an open public bringing to account of the institutions and some of the individuals who were guilty of such appalling practises. How many people were convicted in Wales in relation to the Gwnynd abuses that took place over many decades? There were similar cover ups there and the point was made that in Britain, along with Cleveland House, that it was one of the few institutions subject to such an inquiry.
FF FG Labour weren't telling us that they were the path to eternal life were they? the hypocrisy of our 'moral guardians' is staggering
 

Fr. Fahey

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FF, FG and Labour KNEW what was going on and collaborated in it by handing the children over. My father grew up in Dublin in the 1930s and people did know and it was the responsibility of Governmnet to stop it. They didn't. So they do share part of the moral responsibility. Not every member of those parties but certainly their Ministers and TDs. Just as not every member of the Catholic Church or even the clergy shares the same responsibility as the perpetrators and those who protected them. Same applies obviously to Department of Education officials and Gardai.
 

MauriceColgan

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Socialism is an illusion and proven to be but only after maybe 2/300 million deliberate deaths. Karl Marx was of course an objectively real person, whose erroneous prophecies led to the said deaths.

Maurice if you seriously believe that the Catholic Church has caused more death than socialism I would suggest you spend less time listening to Elvis and more time reading some history.
;-) Fr. Fahey, Are you one of those extremely rare, young priests?

I have read a small library of history books. I'm 67, how old are you?

Nazi, Russian, British and American, etc armies composed of Christian soldiers killed very efficiently indeed. Do you really think Josef Stalin's and Chairman Mao's armies were all made up of real communists?

I listen to a lot more of Ludwig Van Beethoven's beautiful music these days, but a little of Elvis's wonderful Gospel music goes a long way for this particular atheist.

The Holy Grail of Rock 'n' Roll.
 


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