How to make unionists feel at home/welcome in a united ireland

Connollyist a/c no.2

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A Minister for the Unionist Community

A 'Minister for the Unionist Community' makes sense from a practical perspective and from a symbolic one. This would give the unionist community the attention that they need. The Minister for the Unionist Community would hold meetings with the 'Unionist Community Council which will be made up of representives from different sectors of the unionist community which will voice their concerns/ask questions

The Flag Issue

The Irish tricolour is obviously a very contentious symbol in the North and not a symbol unionists think highly of at all. The first way we deal with this is we try to eradicate the status of the tricolour as an Irish nationalist symbol which is exactly what unionists see it as. Effort should be put into educating unionists and constantly reminding unionists of the symbolism of the colours of the flag. Hopefully this will be effective in improving the unionist attitude to the flag.
The second thing we do is we add the Red Hand of Ulster to the flag. The Red Hand is a symbol that is used by both nationalists and unionists. It is also used here in the South as well so it makes sense for the Red Hand to be added as opposed to anything else. Adding a symbol to the middle colour in a tricolour flag is not actually that uncommon and does not look too bad. See Moldova's flag, Canada's and Cameroon's for some examples

The National Anthem Issue

The national anthem of the Republic of Ireland is, just like the Irish tricolour, viewed by the unionist community as a nationalist custom. In response to this the anthem should be changed. An amalgamation of 'Ireland's Call' and Amhran na Fhainne' (probably butchered that spelling tbh) would be a good idea. This way nationalists will not get too angry about the change. 'Ireland's Call' is also a good pick because unionists are already familiar with it and do not seem to cause too much bother. Maybe the first three verses could be from the south's national anthem and a second three from 'Ireland's Call'.
 


Connollyist a/c no.2

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A Minister for the Unionist Community?

Have a look at the history of the various departments and people responsible for Jewish Affairs in places like Bulgaria and Germany ......
What exactly would you be afraid of happening if there was a Minister for the Unionist Community? The role would be to issue grants, understand worries of the unionist community etc
 

between the bridges

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Will there be meat teas and tray bakes...
 

vivabrigada

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Interesting twitter exchange with the deputy editor of the FuryLetter:

"David McCann
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Good on them. Decisions are made by those who show up, not walk away. A UI needs Unionist voices at the table to ensure that we get this right for the long term."


"Sam McBride
@SJAMcBride
The leader of Northern Ireland's dominant unionist party has said that if there was a united Ireland she would probably leave the country. Most unionist politicians who I spoke to today - among them a DUP MP - said that in that scenario they would stay."
(link: https://inews.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/senior-unionists-wouldnt-follow-arlene-foster-out-of-the-country-if-there-was-a-united-ireland/) inews.co.uk/news/northern-…

The penny's dropping.
 

Niall996

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The Red Hand is a bit pointless. Just create a new flag. Anthem no issue.

To make them feel cultural at home and give them some triumphalist venting space, create some dedicated marching tracks. If you coil the track from the inside out you could probably give them a 10Km march in the space of a football pitch and call them Queens's Highways if they want. On the three days of the year when they're not marching these could be used as roller blading parks.

For bonfires let them burn rubbish as part of an environmental waste minimisation campaign, in dedicated incinerators.
 

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A Minister for the Unionist Community

A 'Minister for the Unionist Community' makes sense from a practical perspective and from a symbolic one. This would give the unionist community the attention that they need. The Minister for the Unionist Community would hold meetings with the 'Unionist Community Council which will be made up of representives from different sectors of the unionist community which will voice their concerns/ask questions

The Flag Issue

The Irish tricolour is obviously a very contentious symbol in the North and not a symbol unionists think highly of at all. The first way we deal with this is we try to eradicate the status of the tricolour as an Irish nationalist symbol which is exactly what unionists see it as. Effort should be put into educating unionists and constantly reminding unionists of the symbolism of the colours of the flag. Hopefully this will be effective in improving the unionist attitude to the flag.
The second thing we do is we add the Red Hand of Ulster to the flag. The Red Hand is a symbol that is used by both nationalists and unionists. It is also used here in the South as well so it makes sense for the Red Hand to be added as opposed to anything else. Adding a symbol to the middle colour in a tricolour flag is not actually that uncommon and does not look too bad. See Moldova's flag, Canada's and Cameroon's for some examples

The National Anthem Issue

The national anthem of the Republic of Ireland is, just like the Irish tricolour, viewed by the unionist community as a nationalist custom. In response to this the anthem should be changed. An amalgamation of 'Ireland's Call' and Amhran na Fhainne' (probably butchered that spelling tbh) would be a good idea. This way nationalists will not get too angry about the change. 'Ireland's Call' is also a good pick because unionists are already familiar with it and do not seem to cause too much bother. Maybe the first three verses could be from the south's national anthem and a second three from 'Ireland's Call'.
If it's anything like the shinners' unionist outreach programme (remember that ?), it would be as attractive as a pork chop in a synagogue.
 

Ireniall

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A Minister for the Unionist Community

A 'Minister for the Unionist Community' makes sense from a practical perspective and from a symbolic one. This would give the unionist community the attention that they need. The Minister for the Unionist Community would hold meetings with the 'Unionist Community Council which will be made up of representives from different sectors of the unionist community which will voice their concerns/ask questions

The Flag Issue

The Irish tricolour is obviously a very contentious symbol in the North and not a symbol unionists think highly of at all. The first way we deal with this is we try to eradicate the status of the tricolour as an Irish nationalist symbol which is exactly what unionists see it as. Effort should be put into educating unionists and constantly reminding unionists of the symbolism of the colours of the flag. Hopefully this will be effective in improving the unionist attitude to the flag.
The second thing we do is we add the Red Hand of Ulster to the flag. The Red Hand is a symbol that is used by both nationalists and unionists. It is also used here in the South as well so it makes sense for the Red Hand to be added as opposed to anything else. Adding a symbol to the middle colour in a tricolour flag is not actually that uncommon and does not look too bad. See Moldova's flag, Canada's and Cameroon's for some examples

The National Anthem Issue

The national anthem of the Republic of Ireland is, just like the Irish tricolour, viewed by the unionist community as a nationalist custom. In response to this the anthem should be changed. An amalgamation of 'Ireland's Call' and Amhran na Fhainne' (probably butchered that spelling tbh) would be a good idea. This way nationalists will not get too angry about the change. 'Ireland's Call' is also a good pick because unionists are already familiar with it and do not seem to cause too much bother. Maybe the first three verses could be from the south's national anthem and a second three from 'Ireland's Call'.
I'm all in favour of a Minister for Protestants so long as there's a good Fenian in charge of such a sensitive position. The flag issue is easily solved by simply removing the orange bit and putting a Buckfast logo there instead and I'm sure you could win them over to Amhrain na bhFiann by inserting the words 'the famine is over , it's time to go home' into it.?
 

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I'm all in favour of a Minister for Protestants so long as there's a good Fenian in charge of such a sensitive position. The flag issue is easily solved by simply removing the orange bit and putting a Buckfast logo there instead and I'm sure you could win them over to Amhrain na bhFiann by inserting the words 'the famine is over , it's time to go home' into it.?
Of course, there's already a Protestant in the Cabinet who could fill the role.
 

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To paraphrase Tony Blair - re-education, re-education, re-education!




And that's just for people in the Republic who start daft threads like this.:)
 

CastleRay

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I love these threads. Come out you self-styled “progressives”, let’s see your true colours.
 

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What exactly would you be afraid of happening if there was a Minister for the Unionist Community? The role would be to issue grants, understand worries of the unionist community etc
Ejits like you think that everyone is for sale.
 


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