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How to stop Fianna Fáil?


Shqiptar

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Recent opinion polls have indicated that there is a resurgence in support for Fianna Fáil. Now, it's no surprise that there is a small section of Irish society (the so-called "core vote") that will always hanker after the Soldiers of Destiny. It probably shall be thus for years to come no matter how many feck-ups the country is subjected to at their hands.

What is worrying is that recent poll figures suggest that the party is starting to outgrow this core vote. At current trends, they stand an excellent chance of becoming the most popular party in the run up to the next general election.

Is this what we want? Do we really really desire back in power after a few years' hiatus the party that wreaked such horrors on the national economy? Are our memories that short?

Perhaps they are. Lately, we've become focused on certain issues that have only arisen in the last few months and Fianna Fáil spokesperson have not been hesitant in speaking out critically regarding the government's performance. So, for example, they have harsh things to say regarding the Halappanavar case even though they sat for 14 years on the abortion legislation issue

And they're getting away with it.

Other parties on the opposition benches should not be making common cause with Fianna Fáil on anything. FF has pretty much the same irredentist support base that it had in the mid-noughties and if the party shows signs of revival, it will easily outstrip the likes of Sinn Féin if the SFers only train their attacks on the government. It is incumbent on the likes of Sinn Féin (and the SP etc.) to attack Fianna Fáil as often as it attacks the coalition. Do the Sinners believe that FF in government will offer anything different? Surely not.

As for the government, I think they need to realise that the message that FF caused this mess is not past its sell by date - at least not in the context of debates with FFers. It's simply not acceptable for Fianna Fáilers to be criticising government performance in the resolution of a crisis caused by Fianna Fáilers.

The hope will be that various trials relating to the banking and property collapse will have been given a good airing well in advance of the next election. That should give ample scope for reminding the public that the "Soldiers of Destiny" can not be trusted ever again with the destiny of 4.5m people. As well as being in the interest of ever other party to repeatedly ram this point home, it's also in the interest of the nation.
 


Ryan Tubbs

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They've hit the mighty total of 22%.

The same vote that FG got at their 2002 meltdown (31 seats), and less than half of the vote that FF got under Haughey.

Let's not panic just yet.
 

statsman

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Garlic? Wooden stake? Silver bullet?
 

slippy wicket

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Crazy horse 6

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I think all you can do is educate your kids and kids friends etc.. and hope they have more sense than the idiots who keep voting them and FG back into power year after year.
 

Asparagus

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Take the flouride out of the water supply?
 

bonkers

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Acid bath and a wood chipper IMO. ;)
What's the point of this? The current crowd are carrying out their policies to the letter. They are even surpassing them in the cronyism stakes. There is no difference between any of them.
 

Asparagus

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How do you stop Fianna Fail?

By Fine Gael being NOT a major disappointment.

Insert Sinn fein and Labour for a similar equation.
 

meriwether

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They hit 22% in a poll for the Sunday Times which has nect to no track record to speak of, and certainly therefore no track record of being reliable.

That poll was all sorts of meh.

Have a cup of tea and relax.
 

ergo2

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I think all you can do is educate your kids and kids friends etc.. and hope they have more sense than the idiots who keep voting them and FG back into power year after year.
Political education of your kids' friends?. If they are under 18 that is a matter for their parents. If over 18 they can make up their own minds.
 
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sport02

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The former head of the IMF team to Ireland as part of
the troika said a couple of weeks ago that the new Irish government elected in 2011 has continued on the same path as the previous.

Mody was talking on the bank debt but still a very major point.

Also don't forget that Brian Hayes FG TD wrote recently that Ireland needs Fianna Fail.
 

Grey Area

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Dimiss Reilly!
 

Mackers

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Stop FF. This should do the trick.
 

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