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How to stop migrants crossing from Libya.

davidcameron

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The best way to prevent migrants from crossing the Mediterranean from Libya is for the armed forces of European countries to establish beach-heads on the Libyan coast in order to frustrate the people-smugglers.

The internationally-recognised government of Libya is not in control of most of the country. So why would it object?
 


freewillie

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The best way to prevent migrants from crossing the Mediterranean from Libya is for the armed forces of European countries to establish beach-heads on the Libyan coast in order to frustrate the people-smugglers.

The internationally-recognised government of Libya is not in control of most of the country. So why would it object?
You have ruled out the nuclear option so.
 

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The best way to prevent migrants from crossing the Mediterranean from Libya is for the armed forces of European countries to establish beach-heads on the Libyan coast in order to frustrate the people-smugglers.

The internationally-recognised government of Libya is not in control of most of the country. So why would it object?
Well beach heads would be a breach of sovereignty at a time when delicate behind the scenes negotiations are trying to put together some kind of viable 'Unity' government

Better approach would be to withdraw the EU Navies from 'rescuing' these migrants from the seas

- it has been shown beyond doubt that they will not put to sea during the Winter months

- as its just too damned risky

Without the EU ships there to pick them up the same criteria would apply in the Summer too

They could also seize and destroy the boats of the criminal gangs that ply their Trade in the waters of the Mediterranean

- instead of letting them return to the coasts of Africa

- to pick up even more migrants....
 

kerdasi amaq

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The island of Lampedusa should be declared to be independent sovereign state outside the EU.
 

Truth.ie

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Simple.
Tell those coming that their claim for asylum or visa will not be processed if they arrive illegally. Not even if they marry, find work, win Gold in the Olympics or have babies.
Never. No exceptions.
They will be reluctant to pay smugglers if they have these doubts.
 

Catalpast

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Simple.
Tell those coming that their claim for asylum or visa will not be processed if they arrive illegally. Not even if they marry, find work, win Gold in the Olympics or have babies.
Never. No exceptions.
They will be reluctant to pay smugglers if they have these doubts.
Unless they get deported

- then they couldn't care less

They will just melt into their own communities here
 

LooseCannon

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Easy peasy
Invest enormous amounts in developing the African economies so that there is no reason for them to leave

Step one is really easy:
Stop facilitating laundering corrupt cash via London Switzerland and the other financial centres
 

Truth.ie

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Easy peasy
Invest enormous amounts in developing the African economies so that there is no reason for them to leave

Step one is really easy:
Stop facilitating laundering corrupt cash via London Switzerland and the other financial centres
Try telling the Greeks and the Spanish etc with 50% youth unemployment and their kids emigrating to Latin America for work that they need to spend more of their taxes in Africa......again.
 

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Lease some land somewhere on the African coast and build a large camp there. Ship all asylum seekers there once they arrive in Europe. This will sort the genuine from the spoofers. The spoofers will head home and stop coming. You could use north African tourist resorts as they are now empty. The owners might be very pleased.
 

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The best way to prevent migrants from crossing the Mediterranean from Libya is for the armed forces of European countries to establish beach-heads on the Libyan coast in order to frustrate the people-smugglers.

The internationally-recognised government of Libya is not in control of most of the country. So why would it object?
The time to ask this question was before the war criminals Obama, Hillary, Cameron and Sarkozi murdered Al Gaddafi and handed Libya over to ISIS and Al Qaeda. Now it's too late. The only thing we can really do is hang these four war criminals as a warning to other mass murdering rogues.
 

Catalpast

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But they will not get welfare, rent allowance or a work contract.
They wont get any of them back home either...

They will however get the 1st 2

- its just the State wont call it that

As for work....

They will work for cash

- if not then they will look for cash....
 

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We have to give them something?
Cant they solve that themselves?
Well if 'we' means 'the West' then didn't we bomb the sh1t out of their country and leave it a lawless kip?

Considering this is it not the decent thing to do to try to help the people there?

Feckin´white man's burden again.
I'm sure they said 'feckin white men bombing Muslim countries again' back in 2011.

I think they'd have preferred this not to be the case...
 

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Well if 'we' means 'the West' then didn't we bomb the sh1t out of their country and leave it a lawless kip?

Considering this is it not the decent thing to do to try to help the people there?



I'm sure they said 'feckin white men bombing Muslim countries again' back in 2011.

I think they'd have preferred this not to be the case...

Either that or it is all Israel's fault. If it wasn't for Israel and the West the entire islamic world would be a haven of peace and prosperity........or just a basket case.
 

Truth.ie

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Well if 'we' means 'the West' then didn't we bomb the sh1t out of their country and leave it a lawless kip?

Considering this is it not the decent thing to do to try to help the people there?



I'm sure they said 'feckin white men bombing Muslim countries again' back in 2011.

I think they'd have preferred this not to be the case...
Ghadaffi was ultimately killed by brown African men. Quite a lot of Africans were cheering on the NATO bombing (nothing to do with us btw)
Most of the wars in conflicts in Africa were tribal and religious going back centuries, maybe millenium.
How about some personal responsibility from them for not getting their shyt together.
Didn't we in Ireland get our shyt together. 150 years ago we were dying in ditches by the tens of thousands.
The Imperialists left and we dragged ourselves back up.

We have been throwing billions into Africa and they blew it on bling and weapons.
 

ShoutingIsLeadership

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We have to give them something?
Cant they solve that themselves?
Feckin´white man's burden again.
Where did I say "we"?

Interesting that you see this as a white v non-white issue...not a bit surprising, though.
 
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Ghadaffi was ultimately killed by brown African men. Quite a lot of Africans were cheering on the NATO bombing (nothing to do with us btw)
Most of the wars in conflicts in Africa were tribal and religious going back centuries, maybe millenium.
How about some personal responsibility from them for not getting their shyt together.
Didn't we in Ireland get our shyt together. 150 years ago we were dying in ditches by the tens of thousands.
The Imperialists left and we dragged ourselves back up.

We have been throwing billions into Africa and they blew it on bling and weapons.
Indeed but we can't be supporting anymore terrorist organisations and rebels in these regions there is still however to stop Syria from turning in to another Libya.

These dictatorships across Africa and Asia are the best form of governments for all parties. They provide stability and relative peace.
 


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