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How will the Minister for Justice respond if the Orange Volunteers attack members of the Irish Guards?


cathalbrugha

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How will the Minister for Justice respond if the Orange Volunteers attack members of the Irish Guards?

Following the killing of Garda Adrian Donoghue in County Louth, and the discovery of the getaway car in Armagh, and considering the fact the Government have suggested that it was in fact 'An Assasination', it is now quite reasonable to suggest in polite society that a shadowy Loyalist Death Squad could carry out such an attack.. If the Orange Volunteers carried out this 'assasination', where does that leave us?



The Widow Scallans Bar - Pearse Street.

Are they going to start launching bomb attacks on pubs in the south, like the Ulster Volunteer Force did in 1994 in Pearse Street when it targeted civilians having a few pínts?



Are we going to be building more memorials like this one commemorating the victims of 1974?
 

Ulster-Lad

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Probably issue a European arrest warrant if they are identified and have the PSNI arrest them.
 

meriwether

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How about we stop indulging in such crackpot notions that the Garda was murderred by Loyalists?
 

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It's an interesting hypothesis nonetheless. The Indo would be indignantly highlighting some action of the Irish state which had provoked the poor loyalists into behaving in this manner. Rowing in behind them would be John Bruton and Michael McDowell.
 

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Following the killing of Garda Adrian Donoghue in County Louth, and the discovery of the getaway car in Armagh, and considering the fact the Government have suggested that it was in fact 'An Assasination', it is now quite reasonable to suggest in polite society that a shadowy Loyalist Death Squad could carry out such an attack.. If the Orange Volunteers carried out this 'assasination', where does that leave us?



The Widow Scallans Bar - Pearse Street.

Are they going to start launching bomb attacks on pubs in the south, like the Ulster Volunteer Force did in 1994 in Pearse Street when it targeted civilians having a few pínts?



Are we going to be building more memorials like this one commemorating the victims of 1974?
I used to think you were a sensible poster.
 

cathalbrugha

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How about we stop indulging in such crackpot notions that the Garda was murderred by Loyalists?
A crack pot notion it is, but it's not my 'notion', the Orange Volunteers are fundamentalists.. They've made public statements threatening such actions.. One of their pastors is linked in with the East Belfast faction, the ones behind the 'flag protests', whose spokesman wrote a book advocating killing people in the name of God.. They've actually carried out an attack like this, in their own 'jurisdiction', only last week, when they tried to burn a police officer to death with a petrol bomb.. What's a 'line' on a map to someone like that? 'tis not like they haven't done it before ye know..
 

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A crack pot notion it is, but it's not my 'notion', the Orange Volunteers are fundamentalists.. They've made public statements threatening such actions.. One of their pastors is linked in with the East Belfast faction, the ones behind the 'flag protests', whose spokesman wrote a book advocating killing people in the name of God.. They've actually carried out an attack like this, in their own 'jurisdiction', only last week, when they tried to burn a police officer to death with a petrol bomb.. What's a 'line' on a map to someone like that? 'tis not like they haven't done it before ye know..
The OP reads like wishful thinking - surprised at you.
 

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Probably the same as they'd do with any other paramilitary organisation that's linked to a specific crime. As in, arrest members to try and link them with said crime. Otherwise, let them go.
 

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Probably the same as they'd do with any other paramilitary organisation that's linked to a specific crime. As in, arrest members to try and link them with said crime. Otherwise, let them go.
Yeah pretty straightforward.
 

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Probably the same as they'd do with any other paramilitary organisation that's linked to a specific crime. As in, arrest members to try and link them with said crime. Otherwise, let them go.
the fg/labour coalition doesn't have a very good record when it comes to catching loyalists for mass murder unfortunately. Theyd blame the IRA for making the loyalists kill the garda
 

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A crack pot notion it is, but it's not my 'notion', the Orange Volunteers are fundamentalists.. They've made public statements threatening such actions.. One of their pastors is linked in with the East Belfast faction, the ones behind the 'flag protests', whose spokesman wrote a book advocating killing people in the name of God.. They've actually carried out an attack like this, in their own 'jurisdiction', only last week, when they tried to burn a police officer to death with a petrol bomb.. What's a 'line' on a map to someone like that? 'tis not like they haven't done it before ye know..
Its complete nonsense.

Utter nonsense.
 

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The view of the OP is as valid as some of the other crackpot ideas posted on here.
 

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the fg/labour coalition doesn't have a very good record when it comes to catching loyalists for mass murder unfortunately. Theyd blame the IRA for making the loyalists kill the garda
Well, most Loyalist crimes are committed in the NI, outside the jurisdiction of the ROI, so is there any ROI government with a 'good' record of catching Loyalists?
 

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Well, most Loyalist crimes are committed in the NI, outside the jurisdiction of the ROI, so is there any ROI government with a 'good' record of catching Loyalists?
How many have been arrested and prosecuted for the Dublin/Monaghan bombings?
 

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Well, most Loyalist crimes are committed in the NI, outside the jurisdiction of the ROI, so is there any ROI government with a 'good' record of catching Loyalists?
Dublin Monaghan Bombings, Seamus Ludlow, bombings in dundalk, eddie fullerton etc etc
 

cathalbrugha

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The OP reads like wishful thinking - surprised at you.
I'll grudgingly concede that the OP is slack.. It's defo not 'wishful thinking', of that you can be 100%.. It came up on the other thread, and as that was supposed to be an Obit of sorts, and out of respect I opened up a new OP..

The gubberment are suggesting that it was somehow 'political'.. They've openly said it may have been 'subversives' or what they label 'dissidents'.. And only last week Shatter told us who he considers to be the 'dissidents'..
 

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What the hell is this?
 

Paddyc

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Seeing as everyone is convinced that this is a North Dublin, South Louth bunch of skangers who avail of the border to assist them in carrying out crimes, bringing a red herring like the Orange Volunteers into it is a distraction and a waste of everyone's time.
 

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The gubberment are suggesting that it was somehow 'political'.. They've openly said it may have been 'subversives' or what they label 'dissidents'.. And only last week Shatter told us who he considers to be the 'dissidents'..
So far, the official response has said the opposite, if anything:

It is understood that detectives in Dundalk believe known criminal gangs are more likely than dissident republicans to be responsible for the murder of Detective Garda Adrian Donohoe.
 
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