How Would The Banking Crisis/Downturn Have Panned Out With Haughey as Taoiseach?

General Urko

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I think with Haughey as the national Don, it would have been handled alot better! He would have cultivated relationships with Merkel and Sarkozy long beforehand and would not have tolerated Troika Criminality, it takes one to know one.
Indeed virtually anyone could have done better than the widely called 'smarest man in the room' who was totally the wrong man in the wrong place at the wrong time!

Haughey would also have seen it coming rather than what actually happened i.e. The Troika seeing Biffo coming and acting accordingly!

The Celtic Chieftain would have stood up for his country.

BTW I consider Haughey a common criminal and I always hated the living fooking sight of him!

I don't see Biffo in that light, but I do think he should forfeit all state pensions!

I would love to hear your opinions, Laydees and Ladz.
 


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Well any offers?
 

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He died in 2006. By 2008, I think world leaders may have had difficulty talking to him about the banking crisis. Perhaps a seance?
 

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Haughey would have sold us out with more panache. Biffo did it awkwardly.
 

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Never understood the concern with Haughey, he is essentially an historical irrelevance. The only good thing he did was to help defend people in the north when they needed it and that was what he was hounded for in the south. He also ran guns to the north to split the IRA away from a more socialist path and as such he acted as an agent of southern establishment interests regardless. And it perhaps also suited British interests, whether intentionally or no.
 

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I'm not sure. Earlier that year it was believed in different places that Ireland would be going into bailout. I have a specific from the Sepetmber.

As politically its almost the ultimate humiliation, its no wonder a gov would try and avoid it as long as possible, but by doing so weakens their hand when it comes to negotiations.

Would Haughey have been a better negotiator than Cowen, more than likely, but how much more, its hard to say.
 

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I think with Haughey as the national Don, it would have been handled alot better! He would have cultivated relationships with Merkel and Sarkozy long beforehand and would not have tolerated Troika Criminality, it takes one to know one.
Indeed virtually anyone could have done better than the widely called 'smarest man in the room' who was totally the wrong man in the wrong place at the wrong time!

Haughey would also have seen it coming rather than what actually happened i.e. The Troika seeing Biffo coming and acting accordingly!

The Celtic Chieftain would have stood up for his country.

BTW I consider Haughey a common criminal and I always hated the living fooking sight of him!

I don't see Biffo in that light, but I do think he should forfeit all state pensions!

I would love to hear your opinions, Laydees and Ladz.
Shur he was just cute hoor with no real competence at all. The only thing he was good at was ruthless in-fighting. If that could have helped any he'd have saved the situation with ease. It's very noticeable his lack of ability once he ascends to the top job. Needlessly alienating the UK over the Falklands and attempting shameless horse-trading over sanctions.

His incredible attempt to embarrass Reagan-widely but incorrectly viewed as a bit of a plank. Trust the witless Haughey to fall into that oh so obvious trap. Haughey must have believed all of his acolytes when they kept telling him how intelligent he was and decided that he'd easily out maneuver this supposed fool with an outrageous abuse of our traditional access to the President-a call for the USA to ask the British to withdraw from NI. Reagan would often trip up but he wasn't walking into that obvious landmine. I'm sure he could almost hear Thatchers likely response to any such mistake as he delivered a well-deserved public slap-down to the little Irish scut. Haughey slinked home wondering how his cunning which was so effective in dealing with the retards in FF at the time, had nearly caused a diplomatic incident on St Patricks Day in the USA, an occasion which could hardly go wrong with any kind of average handling.
 

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Haughey would have sold us out with more panache. Biffo did it awkwardly.
He would probably have said something like "tighten yer belts".

And then flew out of the country with whatever could be snaffled from the NTMA.

Like you said. Panache.
 

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Shur he was just cute hoor with no real competence at all. The only thing he was good at was ruthless in-fighting. If that could have helped any he'd have saved the situation with ease. It's very noticeable his lack of ability once he ascends to the top job. Needlessly alienating the UK over the Falklands and attempting shameless horse-trading over sanctions.

His incredible attempt to embarrass Reagan-widely but incorrectly viewed as a bit of a plank. Trust the witless Haughey to fall into that oh so obvious trap. Haughey must have believed all of his acolytes when they kept telling him how intelligent he was and decided that he'd easily out maneuver this supposed fool with an outrageous abuse of our traditional access to the President-a call for the USA to ask the British to withdraw from NI. Reagan would often trip up but he wasn't walking into that obvious landmine. I'm sure he could almost hear Thatchers likely response to any such mistake as he delivered a well-deserved public slap-down to the little Irish scut. Haughey slinked home wondering how his cunning which was so effective in dealing with the retards in FF at the time, had nearly caused a diplomatic incident on St Patricks Day in the USA, an occasion which could hardly go wrong with any kind of average handling.
Sadly, the retards are still retarded, even more so it would appear from some of their bleatings on here, so such pearls are wasted like sweetness on the desert air.
 

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Well any offers?
The fact that a man who professes to have no truck with either the individual scumbag or the party, would even entertain such a thought, says a lot. About what I'm not sure. Maybe the Irish psyche?

I heard a member of the party faithful also proclaim that if FF were in power, the Quinn empire would not have folded and would now be a rip roaring success.
 
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He died in 2006. By 2008, I think world leaders may have had difficulty talking to him about the banking crisis. Perhaps a seance?
I still wouldn't have put it past him to have skimmed around 8% off the top.
 

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I think with Haughey as the national Don, it would have been handled alot better! He would have cultivated relationships with Merkel and Sarkozy long beforehand and would not have tolerated Troika Criminality, it takes one to know one.
Indeed virtually anyone could have done better than the widely called 'smarest man in the room' who was totally the wrong man in the wrong place at the wrong time!

Haughey would also have seen it coming rather than what actually happened i.e. The Troika seeing Biffo coming and acting accordingly!

The Celtic Chieftain would have stood up for his country.

BTW I consider Haughey a common criminal and I always hated the living fooking sight of him!

I don't see Biffo in that light, but I do think he should forfeit all state pensions!

I would love to hear your opinions, Laydees and Ladz.
Sorry what?

Anyway, Haughey sold the country to the banks, Bertie sold it to the builders, far more relevant than talking about some barstool blather allegations about the people who came in to see how to fix the shambles we had made of our country.

Celtic Chieftain? I believe they ran away some centuries ago.
 
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The fact that a man who professes to have no truck with either the individual scumbag or the party, would even entertain such a thought, says a lot. About what I'm not sure. Maybe the Irish psyche?

I heard a member of the party faithful also proclaim that if FF were in power, the Quinn empire would not have folded and would now be a rip roaring success.
I think virtually anybody would have made a better fist of handling the crisis, than the one who was actually in charge of handling it!
 

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Sadly, the retards are still retarded, even more so it would appear from some of their bleatings on here, so such pearls are wasted like sweetness on the desert air.
Yes I'm sure but Jesus they just don't seem to be as completely pathetic as they seemed back then when peak retard was reached. Paddy Lawlor -a man of no substance whatever, described John Hume -a giant of Irish history- as a traitor in the European parliament over his support for the Anglo-Irish Agreement during that brief period when the dreadful Haughey was able to dictate policy in FF. His attempt to oppose this agreement was the final straw for even those dimwits and it marked the beginning of the end for him. They always had a good nose for anything that might do them irreparable damage with the electorate and the AIA was immediately very popular with Nationalist Ireland. Another example of the very questionable notion that Haughey had any sort of real insight or ability.
 

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I think with Haughey as the national Don, it would have been handled alot better! He would have cultivated relationships with Merkel and Sarkozy long beforehand and would not have tolerated Troika Criminality, it takes one to know one.
Indeed virtually anyone could have done better than the widely called 'smarest man in the room' who was totally the wrong man in the wrong place at the wrong time!

Haughey would also have seen it coming rather than what actually happened i.e. The Troika seeing Biffo coming and acting accordingly!

The Celtic Chieftain would have stood up for his country.

BTW I consider Haughey a common criminal and I always hated the living fooking sight of him!

I don't see Biffo in that light, but I do think he should forfeit all state pensions!

I would love to hear your opinions, Laydees and Ladz.
I think Haughey would have cultivated F, D & US & threatened them with collapsing the Euro.

He would have been conflicted by the banks though & foreign intelligence services knowledge thereof
 

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Sorry what?

Anyway, Haughey sold the country to the banks, Bertie sold it to the builders, far more relevant than talking about some barstool blather allegations about the people who came in to see how to fix the shambles we had made of our country.

Celtic Chieftain? I believe they ran away some centuries ago.
They skived off from Rathmullan in 1607 ... and lost all their money going over the Gothard pass ...
Flight of the Earls : A Bridge Between Ireland and Europe
 

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Ireland, you're rearing them yet...

Anybody who thinks Haughey would have been national saviour during the banking crisis, needs to join Sewer Poo and Oggy and tonic in the home for the chronically Fianna Fail, watching endless re-runs of 'Hall's pictorial weekly' on TV and talking about how 'Charlie always looked after the old folks.. I'm going to Galway on the train next week and it won't cost me a penny... God bless you Charlie'.
 

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Ireland, you're rearing them yet...

Anybody who thinks Haughey would have been national saviour during the banking crisis, needs to join Sewer Poo and Oggy and tonic in the home for the chronically Fianna Fail, watching endless re-runs of 'Hall's pictorial weekly' on TV and talking about how 'Charlie always looked after the old folks.. I'm going to Galway on the train next week and it won't cost me a penny... God bless you Charlie'.
I think the point is virtually nobody in charge could have been worse than The Clowen!
 

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I think with Haughey as the national Don, it would have been handled alot better! He would have cultivated relationships with Merkel and Sarkozy long beforehand and would not have tolerated Troika Criminality, it takes one to know one.
Indeed virtually anyone could have done better than the widely called 'smarest man in the room' who was totally the wrong man in the wrong place at the wrong time!

Haughey would also have seen it coming rather than what actually happened i.e. The Troika seeing Biffo coming and acting accordingly!

The Celtic Chieftain would have stood up for his country.

BTW I consider Haughey a common criminal and I always hated the living fooking sight of him!

I don't see Biffo in that light, but I do think he should forfeit all state pensions!

I would love to hear your opinions, Laydees and Ladz.
haughey was a compromised individual so someone who knew about his skeletons would have taken advantage of it.

No doubt he would have skimmed something for himself and his "friends" as was his norm.
I would bet some people involved in Irish business would have made a killing by knowing the inside track.

haughey stood up for himself first and foremost, so stop this bullshyte that he was somehow some great celtic chieftain standing up for his people.
 


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