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Howlin to sack poor performers in PS. Does this iinclude clueless economists?


leftsoc

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ASTI react angrily to Howlin interview | Irish Examiner

Brendan Howlin is doing his bit for 'labour market flexibility' as our economist friends call it. Nobody will be safe from vindictive managers anywhere, public or private. This is a major change to our culture, and will eventually turn us all into 'lets all sing the company song' castratis, like Americans.

Why has there been no mass sackings in the economics profession, surely the profession most packed with time-serving incompetent failures in recent years? Why not bring a bit of market flexibility to the lives of those bright boys and girls, who are so anxious such flexibility should be extended to the untermenschen of the public service?

We own all the banks . Surely their economists should be investigated first, made to admit their faults and suggest how they will do better in future, or even explain to us again what a soft landing is. Then the universities, the trade unions, stock brokers , DOF, they could all haul out their economists for Maoist style bouts of public self-criticisms, before they beg for their jobs back. Maybe they could be made to go to the Ploughing Championships, 'to learn from the Peasants'.

Or is 'labour market flexibility' only for the little people?
 


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How can anyone believe that any worker* is entitled to a job they can't do? (The ASTI may have a valid point about the objectivity of the assessment system but surely those details can be worked out). Incompetence is a fair ground for dismissal - it needs to be invoked more.


*public/private, junior/senior, appointed/elected.
 

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Could Brendan Howlin bring in some sort of TD recall mechanism for lying politicians who deceived their electorate to get elected and then proceeded to vote in favour of the issues they supposedly opposed . . Like cutting child benefit and not introducing third level fees?

Because if that were to occur Howlin would probably find himself back in the classroom (ok that's very unlikely)
 

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Could Brendan Howlin bring in some sort of TD recall mechanism for lying politicians who deceived their electorate to get elected and then proceeded to vote in favour of the issues they supposedly opposed . . Like cutting child benefit and not introducing third level fees?
Sounds reasonable. A sack your local TD campaign. petunia We could have a local vote annually (say right after budget) asking if your local TDs should be retained in office or sacked.
 

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That's one seriously crap and biased OP... :roll:

Those who are crap at their jobs and/or who have become surplus to requirements should be made redundant/sacked/fired regardless of whether they work in the public sector, private sector or whether they're entry level or have been there for decades...

I don't believe this will happen however... it's just more hot air from another useless government minister...

Actions and not words are what our rotten 'establishment' should be judged on from now on...

They spew so much crap that they never deliver on that their words should be treated with the contempt they deserve...

And for that they only have themselves to blame...
 

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Does this include Dan McLaughlin chief "economist" in the BoI (which was rescued with with PAYE taxpayer bailout money) which is effectively a semi-state organization since the state became an equity holder ?

Will Dan be reduced to writing "bullishly optimistic" articles in the BS (Business Supplement) to the property paper of record ??
 

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The unions will never allow this to happen - even though it is long overdue.
 

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Of course it should include economists along with any other employee who cannot do the job. But I think we all know that this is just NOT going to happen. The private sector deals with this in its own way. The public sector is a closed shop in this regard.
 

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Does this include Dan McLaughlin chief "economist" in the BoI (which was rescued with with PAYE taxpayer bailout money) which is effectively a semi-state organization since the state became an equity holder ?

Will Dan be reduced to writing "bullishly optimistic" articles in the BS (Business Supplement) to the property paper of record ??
only until Shane Ross replaces him....
Fingleton's little people savage rebels - National News - Independent.ie
An open letter to Shane Ross - Askaboutmoney.com

withthanks to Brendan Burgess
 

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Howlin should start by sacking Ruairí Quinn as over half of first year college students still have not received their grants with the academic year half over.

I've no doubt that situations will arise to sack permanent public sector workers but like corruption in this country it will only effect those at the bottom of the chain (i.e. teachers and nurses) with those at the top (CEOs of VECs, the expenses and QUANGO brigade, TDs and Ministers) just carrying on as before.
 

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Do we have a final figure as of yet on how much the HSE is over budget? I think it is about €500 million.
 

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Do we have a final figure as of yet on how much the HSE is over budget? I think it is about €500 million.
Which is clearly the responsibility of some lower ranking civil servant in the Department of Health and not James Reilly. . . . As soon as Howlin finds out who they are they're done for.
 

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Howlin should start by sacking Ruairí Quinn as over half of first year college students still have not received their grants with the academic year half over.

I've no doubt that situations will arise to sack permanent public sector workers but like corruption in this country it will only effect those at the bottom of the chain (i.e. teachers and nurses) with those at the top (CEOs of VECs, the expenses and QUANGO brigade, TDs and Ministers) just carrying on as before.
Robert....the institutional state does not do humility, or acceptance of failing to do the job properly.

Just look at how hard it was to get rid of the clowns in charge of the Financial Regulator. And the massive cost of it.

It seems that the higher up the chain of command tha failure occurs, the less likely we are to see any form of correction.
 

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Arra he will in his hole. Get real.

There is no such thing as dismissal for incompetence in the PS. And of all parties, as if Labour would be the party to push for it.
 

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Does this include Dan McLaughlin chief "economist" in the BoI (which was rescued with with PAYE taxpayer bailout money) which is effectively a semi-state organization since the state became an equity holder ?

Will Dan be reduced to writing "bullishly optimistic" articles in the BS (Business Supplement) to the property paper of record ??
BOI isnt a semi-state, and is'nt government owned.
 

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hang on....isn't this the same Howlin who promised to reduce public sector allowances by €75m in 2012.....I think the teachers have NOTHING to fear.
 

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Howlin should start by sacking Ruairí Quinn as over half of first year college students still have not received their grants with the academic year half over.

I've no doubt that situations will arise to sack permanent public sector workers but like corruption in this country it will only effect those at the bottom of the chain (i.e. teachers and nurses) with those at the top (CEOs of VECs, the expenses and QUANGO brigade, TDs and Ministers) just carrying on as before.
Get the sack for not giving out free money....
 

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The problem was the public service (other than academic economists like Ahearne and Kelly who did warn of an economy out of control and a crash) seemingly didn't have any properly qualified economists.

Instead the meeja and by implication the state and its citizens relied on such luminaries as Dr "Desperate" Dan McLaughlin and Jim "Soft Landing" Power. These fellas were employed in the private sector and shockingly remain employed by these private sector employers. Power's broadcasting career is also firmly intact and he's even diversified into advertising (tho for an organisation he's chairman of). Which in terms of irony is up there with Hank Kissinger getting the Nobel Peace Prize.
 

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how about sacking all the senators -- resent hugely the little they do for their carzy money and pensions . Instead as usual howling going for the " little people""-- even though some need to be sacked
 

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