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HSE hires motivational coaches to give senior managers ‘morale boost’


Teabag

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HSE hires motivational coaches to give senior managers ‘morale boost’ - National News - Independent.ie

Having worked on projects for the HSE, this is simply astounding. Its just more waste on an INCREDIBLY wasteful organisation. There are simply too many back office managers. They are on too much money and many of them have little value-add work to do. When the health boards merged, they should have been laid off. Instead they created processes and workflows which keeps them in 'roles' but which also stifles productivity and service.
 
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HSE hires motivational coaches to give senior managers ‘morale boost’ - National News - Independent.ie

Having worked on projects for the HSE, this is simply astounding. Its just more waste on an INCREDIBLY wasteful organisation. There are simply too many back office managers. They are on too much money and many of them have little value-add work to do. When the health boards merged, they should have been laid off. Instead they created processes and workflows which keeps them in 'roles' but stifles productivity and service.

What ever happened to the 3,000 excess managers and administrators in the HSE?

Did they retire and take the €200,000 tax free lump sum??
 

Cellach

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HSE hires motivational coaches to give senior managers ‘morale boost’ - National News - Independent.ie

Having worked on projects for the HSE, this is simply astounding. Its just more waste on an INCREDIBLY wasteful organisation. There are simply too many back office managers. They are on too much money and many of them have little value-add work to do. When the health boards merged, they should have been laid off. Instead they created processes and workflows which keeps them in 'roles' but which also stifles productivity and service.
That's all very true but from your link:
“The HSE has seen a significant reduction in the number of senior and middle managers over the past number of years through various redundancy and early retirement schemes and the current employment moratorium.

“A pilot succession management programme to identify suitable managers and provide on-the-job development for them has been put in place."
I'd wonder what exact services these coaches are going to provide (what is a 'motivational' coach) before I would feel comfortable condemning this as an example of HSE waste.
 

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I don't know why they call motivational coaching 'motivational'. It makes me want to bleed out ..
 

damus

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The "new managers" are clearly not up to the job if they need a motivational coach!
 

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HSE hires motivational coaches to give senior managers ‘morale boost’ - National News - Independent.ie

Having worked on projects for the HSE, this is simply astounding. Its just more waste on an INCREDIBLY wasteful organisation. There are simply too many back office managers. They are on too much money and many of them have little value-add work to do. When the health boards merged, they should have been laid off. Instead they created processes and workflows which keeps them in 'roles' but which also stifles productivity and service.
I do not think there are the type of words in the English language that can accurately convey how stupid and wasteful this 'morale boosting' idea is..............but I will give it a go

Shower of ******* b****** how dare they **** all that money away while poor aul ***** remain on waiting lists etc. I would love to ***** the **** out of the whole lot of them *******!
 

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There's only one medicine that can cure this cancer in our country.

Privatisation.
 

Fractional Reserve

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this country is gone to the dogs , motivational coaches wtf do they want them for ? Let them get off their asses and do the job they are suppossed to do and less of this pansy , sissy pussyfooting about .
 

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It's amazing the money tree in the Dail, money can be found for this, 250,000 for aid to the USA, money for Africa, money for trips to various countries, money to pay for increments for PS, money to break pay caps, top up pensions the list goes on. Money however cannot be found for anything that benefits the Taxpayer.
 

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The "new managers" are clearly not up to the job if they need a motivational coach!
Quite a lot of the "new managers" are still on their old pay and conditions. There are numerous examples through the HSE of people taking over senior management duties on so called "expressions of interest". These managers have been in role since Feb or March this year, sometimes before, but they are still paid at a the salary of their official contractual employment, which is much lower. Due to a complete recruitment freeze these managers will continue to fulfill these duties, without recompense, long into the future.
 

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HSE hires motivational coaches to give senior managers ‘morale boost’ - National News - Independent.ie

Having worked on projects for the HSE, this is simply astounding. Its just more waste on an INCREDIBLY wasteful organisation. There are simply too many back office managers. They are on too much money and many of them have little value-add work to do. When the health boards merged, they should have been laid off. Instead they created processes and workflows which keeps them in 'roles' but which also stifles productivity and service.
I would support a criminal investigation intho this.

The managers are very easily motivated. If they don't do there job, fire them. That is the only incentive they need.

There are plenty of Irish who would love those jobs, who would gladly fill those jobs at half the wages.
 

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More waste of taxpayers money goes unaddressed while the government raise even more taxes.
 

damus

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Quite a lot of the "new managers" are still on their old pay and conditions. There are numerous examples through the HSE of people taking over senior management duties on so called "expressions of interest". These managers have been in role since Feb or March this year, sometimes before, but they are still paid at a the salary of their official contractual employment, which is much lower. Due to a complete recruitment freeze these managers will continue to fulfill these duties, without recompense, long into the future.
Recruitment freeze my h*le....there's been a whole series of people filling the positions of people who took early retirement and that wasn't suppose to happen under the early retirement scheme! Where the managers forced in to acting up without getting recompensed....they could said no!
 

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I know a woman who worked in the HSE until 2009 and grew tired of their incompetence. Even though she was on decent money and was in line for a bumper pension when she left she moved herself and her family to Canada for her own mental health. She was exactly the kind of person we needed in the Irish health system and it's people like her that are leaving in their droves and we are left with dross.
 

Crazy horse 6

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I would support a criminal investigation intho this.

The managers are very easily motivated. If they don't do there job, fire them. That is the only incentive they need.

There are plenty of Irish who would love those jobs, who would gladly fill those jobs at half the wages.
Half the wages plus the ubber golden bonus that is a PS pension.
 

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Seems odd in the extreme. An organisation like this doesn't need staffed motivation coaches. Most companies will have management undergo sessions with motivation/developmental coaches, but the idea of employing 35 of them full time is bizarre.

Just hire a third party provider to do 2 days a year with management and then (if required as part of behaviour improvement/adjustement) extra sessions for individuals.

But 35 people, full time at let's say 40k each resulting in 1.4 million costs is ridiculous.
 

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There's only one medicine that can cure this cancer in our country.

Privatisation.
Aye, where the rich are looked after in a timely fashion and the poor .. well ... :oops:
 

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Seems odd in the extreme. An organisation like this doesn't need staffed motivation coaches. Most companies will have management undergo sessions with motivation/developmental coaches, but the idea of employing 35 of them full time is bizarre.

Just hire a third party provider to do 2 days a year with management and then (if required as part of behaviour improvement/adjustement) extra sessions for individuals.

But 35 people, full time at let's say 40k each resulting in 1.4 million costs is ridiculous.
If they manage to hire them for as little as 40K each I'll eat a copy of "The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People" and put the video up on youtube.
 

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You could not make this sh1t up!!!

Firing the least performing 10-15% annually should begin to motivate them. These f*ckers need motivational coaches to take money from the sick and elderly??? The CPA needs to be ripped up immediately.
 
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