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HSE to cut Staff


Ulster-Lad

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Last week it was reported that the Gardai were going to lose some 1,300 front line positions. The claim was subsequently denied by the Justice Minister.

It is now being reported that the HSE is to cut 4,000 staff. This will be a devastating blow to services. If cuts are to be made they should be focused on management and the bureaucracy and not the front line. It states it will be impossible to avoid cuts to frontline staff.

HSE to cut 4,000 staff | BreakingNews.ie

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0110/hse-2013-national-service-plan.html
 
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The difference between this and last weeks redundancies of the Gardai is that Minister Reilly admits to having approved this plan.
 

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Last week it was reported that the Gardai were going to lose some 1,300 front line positions. The claim was subsequently denied by the Justice Minister.

It is now being reported that the HSE is to cut 4,000 front line staff. This will be a devastating blow to services. If cuts are to be made they should be focused on management and the bureaucracy and not the front line.

HSE to cut 4,000 staff | BreakingNews.ie

No doubt the private health industry will benefit from such cuts. Naomi Kleins book 'Shock doctrine' subject is currently been implemented in Ireland.

Naomi Klein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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Here in Galway, it had been announced by Derek Nolan that Kathleen Lynch had given a commitment to disability services would be only 0.3% but the service providers have now been told that the cuts will be in the order of 5%.

Around 15 beds in St. Bridget's Ballinasloe are being closed and 17 respite beds in Toghermore in Tuam which will devastate mental health care in the region. Needless to say, the community mental health teams are not sufficient to the task as Lynch failed to spend the money allocated last year and Reilly blew it elsewhere. But fear not, it's not like we are in the middle of a suicide epidemic (8 in one weekend recently in Ballinasloe).

Of course both sectors are easy to pick on as the families of service users and patients are just expected to get on with it (respite grant cut anyone?). Also, the stigma around mental health still leaves families and patients unwilling to speak out.
 

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If they are taken from management and admin, then it's a good thing. Too many chiefs (highly paid ones) and not enough injuns.
 

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The difference between this and last weeks redundancies of the Gardai is that Minister Reilly admits to having approved this plan.
They other big difference is our Nepotistic leaders don't need nurses to enforce their current laws in this Flawed State.
 

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There will be a lot of posters on p.ie delighted to hear this news.
 

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Here in Galway, it had been announced by Derek Nolan that Kathleen Lynch had given a commitment to disability services would be only 0.3% but the service providers have now been told that the cuts will be in the order of 5%.

Around 15 beds in St. Bridget's Ballinasloe are being closed and 17 respite beds in Toghermore in Tuam which will devastate mental health care in the region. Needless to say, the community mental health teams are not sufficient to the task as Lynch failed to spend the money allocated last year and Reilly blew it elsewhere. But fear not, it's not like we are in the middle of a suicide epidemic (8 in one weekend recently in Ballinasloe).

Of course both sectors are easy to pick on as the families of service users and patients are just expected to get on with it (respite grant cut anyone?). Also, the stigma around mental health still leaves families and patients unwilling to speak out.
Puts the crocodile tears about Shane McEntee in perspective.
 

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They other big difference is our Nepotistic leaders don't need nurses to enforce their current laws in this Flawed State.
There'll be plenty of nurses and beds on hand if, say, a senior civil servant in the HSE or Dept of Health gets sick.
 

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There will be a lot of posters on p.ie delighted to hear this news.
No doubt that they more than likely have the means and health insurance, to insulate them from the impacts of such massive health cuts.
 

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Last week it was reported that the Gardai were going to lose some 1,300 front line positions. The claim was subsequently denied by the Justice Minister.

It is now being reported that the HSE is to cut 4,000 front line staff. This will be a devastating blow to services. If cuts are to be made they should be focused on management and the bureaucracy and not the front line.

HSE to cut 4,000 staff | BreakingNews.ie

HSE publishes plan to save
Where are you getting the HSE is to cut 4,000 "front line" staff from?
 

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Puts the crocodile tears about Shane McEntee in perspective.
It does a bit. I wonder will Rabbitte even manage a spasm of outrage over it.
 

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Where are you getting the HSE is to cut 4,000 "front line" staff from?
It says it in the second sentence of the link:

The HSE said that it will be impossible to avoid cuts to frontline services due to significantly reduced staff numbers.
I love that sentence. . . Due to ongoing reduced cuts in staff it will be impossible to avoid further cuts in staff.
 

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Here in Galway, it had been announced by Derek Nolan that Kathleen Lynch had given a commitment to disability services would be only 0.3% but the service providers have now been told that the cuts will be in the order of 5%.

Around 15 beds in St. Bridget's Ballinasloe are being closed and 17 respite beds in Toghermore in Tuam which will devastate mental health care in the region. Needless to say, the community mental health teams are not sufficient to the task as Lynch failed to spend the money allocated last year and Reilly blew it elsewhere. But fear not, it's not like we are in the middle of a suicide epidemic (8 in one weekend recently in Ballinasloe).

Of course both sectors are easy to pick on as the families of service users and patients are just expected to get on with it (respite grant cut anyone?). Also, the stigma around mental health still leaves families and patients unwilling to speak out.
Derek Nolan - he's Labour (the self-certified liar party) isn't he? Did you believe him?
 

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Where are you getting the HSE is to cut 4,000 "front line" staff from?

I corrected the OP to staff. It says it will be impossible to avoid the cuts to the frontline staff.
 

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It says it in the second sentence of the link:
And obviously that's differnet.

Even if 4,000 administration staff were cut, it would be naturally impossible to avoid cuts to frontline servies, as frontline staff are supported by the administation. Of course the same is true if it was 500 frontline staff and 3,500 administation staff and so on.

There is no mention in that article of how they will reduce the numbers by 4,000. I imagine it will be a bit of both, as I imagine it will largely be done by not replacing people who leave.
 

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Derek Nolan - he's Labour (the self-certified liar party) isn't he? Did you believe him?
I believe from talking to Derek that he believed it but I was extremely sceptical and thought it extremely ill-judged by him to have given such assurances in Galway on it. Along with student fees this is one of the biggest pressures on him.

Sadly, within a week of Derek's announcement in budget week the service providers were being softened up for the cut by the HSE. It is going to cause closures of independent living homes and the reinstitutionalisation of many of the service users.

Similarly, the closure of the respite bed facility in Tuam, described by Lynch only 18 months ago as a model for what mental health care should be in this state, will also lead back to the 'lock em up' approach, although that's limited by bed closures in Ballinasloe, so it will also lead to homelessness (mental health being the leading cause of same), suicide, and huge pressures on families as well as prolonging the misery of those suffering from poor mental health.
 

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I believe from talking to Derek that he believed it but I was extremely sceptical and thought it extremely ill-judged by him to have given such assurances in Galway on it. Along with student fees this is one of the biggest pressures on him.

Sadly, within a week of Derek's announcement in budget week the service providers were being softened up for the cut by the HSE. It is going to cause closures of independent living homes and the reinstitutionalisation of many of the service users.

Similarly, the closure of the respite bed facility in Tuam, described by Lynch only 18 months ago as a model for what mental health care should be in this state, will also lead back to the 'lock em up' approach, although that's limited by bed closures in Ballinasloe, so it will also lead to homelessness (mental health being the leading cause of same), suicide, and huge pressures on families as well as prolonging the misery of those suffering from poor mental health.
You'd think in times like these that mental health would be protected at all costs.
 

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Here in Galway, it had been announced by Derek Nolan that Kathleen Lynch had given a commitment to disability services would be only 0.3% but the service providers have now been told that the cuts will be in the order of 5%.

Around 15 beds in St. Bridget's Ballinasloe are being closed and 17 respite beds in Toghermore in Tuam which will devastate mental health care in the region. Needless to say, the community mental health teams are not sufficient to the task as Lynch failed to spend the money allocated last year and Reilly blew it elsewhere. But fear not, it's not like we are in the middle of a suicide epidemic (8 in one weekend recently in Ballinasloe).

Of course both sectors are easy to pick on as the families of service users and patients are just expected to get on with it (respite grant cut anyone?). Also, the stigma around mental health still leaves families and patients unwilling to speak out.
Didn't Lynch not waffle on about the imminent hiring of Mental Health professionals during her speech in defence of Reilly during his MoNC debate ? Reilly has also mentioned it again with today's announcement of the Health Plan. They must be hiring thousands judging they way they talk about "imminent" and "as a matter of priority" mental health jobs.

I was always of a mind that even though it might seem like the vulnerable are being targeted because of less resistance, that no politician, or human for that matter, would actually deliberately target the weaker in society.

I'm having doubts about that now and it's not a great feeling. I can only imagine how the people who depend on these services are feeling....
 

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