Hypocrisy regarding the provos and the old ira

Connollyist a/c no.2

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I often hear nonsense like "the provos had no mandate so there actions were not justified". This is nonsense. The Easter rebels were a fringe group in Irish politics. Not a single MP elected by the Irish people in the 1910 general election supported armed struggle. Sinn fein on the other hand had multiple MPs. Clearly the sinn fein/pira struggle was far more democratic than the struggle of people like pearse.

You also have people appaled at the "murder" of police officer jerry mccabe and civilian informer jean mcconville. The ira killed hundreds of policemen during the war of independence but I have never heard anyone fusisng about that. Sean Connolly of the Irish Citizen army killed an unarmed police officer at Dublin castle during the Easter Rising. How is that any different to killing jerry mccabe? During the tan war hundreds of civilian informers like jean mcconville were executed and given secret buriels but do we hear people calling Michael Collins a terrorist or a murderer? No we dont.
 


Kommunist

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Are you drunk
 

Accidental sock

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Why do all your OPs have the tone my Granny used to have, when she finally discovered the wonders of using the VCR?
 

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Did the Old IRA have a fuel smuggling empire ?

Or a slush fund ?

Or real estate in Bulgaria ?

All whilst promising a 'socialist' nirvana.

The moral pretence of the Provos is a bit much.
 

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Did the Old IRA have a fuel smuggling empire ?

Or a slush fund ?

Or real estate in Bulgaria ?

All whilst promising a 'socialist' nirvana.

The moral pretence of the Provos is a bit much.
Put down the copy of the Sindo and step away from the keyboard :lol:
 

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What you are talking is more breathe taking once you start to look into it. The smugness of it's partisans however stops them from listening.
 

Se0samh

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Did the Old IRA have a fuel smuggling empire ?

Or a slush fund ?

Or real estate in Bulgaria ?

All whilst promising a 'socialist' nirvana.

The moral pretence of the Provos is a bit much.
Fuel smuggling would be a bit anachronistic, no....a slush fund though depends on your definition...they certainly had funds for arms purchase and smuggling paying informers etc...most would never have even heard of Bulgaria though, I'll give you that one...:D
 

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I often hear nonsense like "the provos had no mandate so there actions were not justified". This is nonsense. The Easter rebels were a fringe group in Irish politics. Not a single MP elected by the Irish people in the 1910 general election supported armed struggle. Sinn fein on the other hand had multiple MPs. Clearly the sinn fein/pira struggle was far more democratic than the struggle of people like pearse.

You also have people appaled at the "murder" of police officer jerry mccabe and civilian informer jean mcconville. The ira killed hundreds of policemen during the war of independence but I have never heard anyone fusisng about that. Sean Connolly of the Irish Citizen army killed an unarmed police officer at Dublin castle during the Easter Rising. How is that any different to killing jerry mccabe? During the tan war hundreds of civilian informers like jean mcconville were executed and given secret buriels but do we hear people calling Michael Collins a terrorist or a murderer? No we dont.
Did the old Ira allow their leaders to cover up kiddy fiddling and rape the way Jarry did?
 

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I often hear nonsense like "the provos had no mandate so there actions were not justified". This is nonsense. The Easter rebels were a fringe group in Irish politics. Not a single MP elected by the Irish people in the 1910 general election supported armed struggle. Sinn fein on the other hand had multiple MPs. Clearly the sinn fein/pira struggle was far more democratic than the struggle of people like pearse.

You also have people appaled at the "murder" of police officer jerry mccabe and civilian informer jean mcconville. The ira killed hundreds of policemen during the war of independence but I have never heard anyone fusisng about that. Sean Connolly of the Irish Citizen army killed an unarmed police officer at Dublin castle during the Easter Rising. How is that any different to killing jerry mccabe? During the tan war hundreds of civilian informers like jean mcconville were executed and given secret buriels but do we hear people calling Michael Collins a terrorist or a murderer? No we dont.
Have you any hair ? If so, I suggest you wash it right now. Or maybe there's some ironing or hoovering to be done.
 

Volatire

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Did the old Ira allow their leaders to cover up kiddy fiddling and rape the way Jarry did?
The 1916 Declaration of Independence was drafted by the pedophile Patrick Pearse.

So .. um .. yes.
 

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I often hear nonsense like "the provos had no mandate so there actions were not justified". This is nonsense. The Easter rebels were a fringe group in Irish politics. Not a single MP elected by the Irish people in the 1910 general election supported armed struggle. Sinn fein on the other hand had multiple MPs. Clearly the sinn fein/pira struggle was far more democratic than the struggle of people like pearse.

You also have people appaled at the "murder" of police officer jerry mccabe and civilian informer jean mcconville. The ira killed hundreds of policemen during the war of independence but I have never heard anyone fusisng about that. Sean Connolly of the Irish Citizen army killed an unarmed police officer at Dublin castle during the Easter Rising. How is that any different to killing jerry mccabe? During the tan war hundreds of civilian informers like jean mcconville were executed and given secret buriels but do we hear people calling Michael Collins a terrorist or a murderer? No we dont.
Except the Rising wasn't popular immediately after its staging, and even the post-execution support might have proved ephemeral, had the British enacted Home Rule in the direct aftermath. No, it was only continued political stasis and military coercion that gave SF a democratic mandate, and the Old IRA legitimacy.
 

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The 1916 Declaration of Independence was drafted by the pedophile Patrick Pearse.

So .. um .. yes.
Still that's no excuse for Jarry and co to cover up kiddy-fiddling and rape and to encourage the minions use the internet and social media to harass the victims.

That was not in the proclamation.
 


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