Ian O'Doherty Launches a Broadside against Aosdana.

General Urko

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The Arts Council has decided to audit the work of Aosdana members every 5 years or so to justify paying them, which is costing close to €3 Million at the moment for its 250 privileged members!

Also, A few aul Aosdana crusties were complaining recently that the area of Kerry where part of Star Wars was filmed is being destroyed due to tourism.

Ian in his own inimitable way has pointed out that it is virtually a freemason organisation, where arty farty doleys are given a stipend/handout (technicaly a cnuais :rolleyes:) of €17K each per year to produce virtually nothing of any artistic merit at all, indeed often actually nothing!

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'Star Wars' row shows the farce remains strong in Aosdana - Independent.ie

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He maintains that it was originally started by the Squire of Kinseally to pretend that he was a patron of the arts and no doubt to give the likes of Tony Cronin a coupla bob!

He also takes issue with the recent great ejaculation of John Banville that one can still call oneself an artist even if one hasn't produced a single work of art (let alone anything of merit) in a 40 year period).

He characterises them as self selected, the dole for those who drink in bad pubs and Aosdana only ever makes the headlines when one of its members does something mad!

Also within it, once you obtain a certain level you become known as a 'Saoí' petunia (a wise one) and he adds, never trust anybody who gives himself a nickname!

BTW the interview with Yatesy indicates perhaps why Celtic Bookmakers went belly up, he doesn't seem to understand numbers!:rolleyes:

It should also be pointed out That Big Ian is a Trump supporter as is Mattie McGrath!

Meanwhile Colm Toibin has said the lads are now being treated like the kulaks in Stallin's Soviet Union!petunia

So what do you reckon?
 


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Ian O'Doherty?

The man is a gobshyte
Many people are. Indeed, in the minds of some, I too may have that epithet.

Now, how's about we address the points that he put forward?


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Actually, on second thoughts, lets not!
 

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Aosdana screams elitist tosh and has no place in a republic, particular a broke republic.

It's a classic example of circle jerkery.
 

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Ian O'Doherty?

The man is a gobshyte
Indisputable. But he kinda has a point here. I'm all for public funding of the arts but there has to be better ways of doing it than these hand outs to the Aosdana luvvies.
 

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Oh Ian O'Doherty? I thought the broadside was launched by someone substantial. Next!
When it's a case of an ignoramus denouncing an elitist clique of luvvies it's just a case of hoping they both lose.

Having said that, anyone who works for O'Brien media has a cheek claiming they represent the hard-pressed taxpayer.
 

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Ian O'Doherty?

The man is a gobshyte
Finally we agree on something.

Aos Dana was a brilliant idea but of course given the decay in thought and character it is at moment bound to more than imperfect given how things stand in society. However Ian O'Doherty is a case study at least as far he presents himself of degenerate character incapable of thinking noble thoughts. I would defend the Institution of Aos Dana because of the Idea which it embodies against that barbarian anyday.
 

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When it's a case of an ignoramus denouncing an elitist clique of luvvies it's just a case of hoping they both lose.

Having said that, anyone who works for O'Brien media has a cheek claiming they represent the hard-pressed taxpayer.
And he was also saying it on one of Rosebud's Radio Stations!:rolleyes:
 

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Finally we agree on something.

Aos Dana was a brilliant idea but of course given the decay in thought and character it is at moment bound to more than imperfect given how things stand in society. However Ian O'Doherty is a case study at least as far he presents himself of degenerate character incapable of thinking noble thoughts. I would defend the Institution of Aos Dana because of the Idea which it embodies against that barbarian anyday.
But can we say that being a Saoi in Aosdana means you cannot also be a Barbarian!:rolleyes:
 

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Aosdana screams elitist tosh and has no place in a republic, particular a broke republic.

It's a classic example of circle jerkery.
Capitalism oppresses and exploits the masses, but it also has a strong tendency to pander to the worst in them, instead of trying to raise the cultural and Spiritual level of everyone which involves I'm afraid "Elitism" after the manner of Monarchial-Aristocratic and Socialist States, it seeks to drag everything down to the level of the gutter in the name of "Equality". Anyway though it was suppressed during the Great Revolution (only to be revived by Napoleon) I'm pretty sure that most French people today would roll their eyes if you told them that the far more "Elitist" Acedemie Francais was incompatible with having a Republic.
 

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Im just wondering is this collection of so called"artists" getting grants and titles from the Irish President not entirely in breach of the Irish Constitution.


ARTICLE 40
2 1° Titles of nobility shall not be conferred by the State.

The title of SAOI [modelled on the order of the Garter in Englands monarchy with a membership limited to 250] is conferred by the Irish President for life on some members of Aosdana and in a way it is akin to a title of nobility.
 
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Finally we agree on something.

Aos Dana was a brilliant idea but of course given the decay in thought and character it is at moment bound to more than imperfect given how things stand in society. However Ian O'Doherty is a case study at least as far he presents himself of degenerate character incapable of thinking noble thoughts. I would defend the Institution of Aos Dana because of the Idea which it embodies against that barbarian anyday.
Wasn't it Nietzsche who said everything evolves into the opposite of itself!
 


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