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ICTU jobs protest , Dublin , on Wednesday.


cricket

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Is there any danger that nutjobs like Eirigí and others will try to hijack this and turn it nasty ?
Nonetheless , I think this demo ( timed to coincide with the Dáil resuming from it's " summer " break ) , should be supported by everybody who can.
 


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All demonstrations are at risk of being hijacked by nut jobs.

I have never understood why unions somehow think they speak for the unemployed. The only peoples jobs they care about are their own members and that is how it should be so lets have less of speaking fr the disadvantaged claptrap.
 

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saw the signs advertising this . Said something along the lines of "no to cuts, make the bankers pay" . such populist rubbish. we have no alternative but to cut a lot and raise taxes and be worse off in future. We as a nation lived beyond our means for years and now we must live frugally for years to come. Maybe they mean make central bank board member and ICTU president David Begg pay? With his six figure salary and loads of nixers on the side.
 

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I don't get it... ICTU signed up to the Croke Park Agreement yet are protesting at the cuts that will happen as a result of the Agreement that they agreed to?

Very hypocritical - count me out.
 

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This protest seems to have been organised at the behest of the European Trade Union Confederation who, on the face of it, are exhorting their affiliate unions to protest against cuts by governments across Europe, regardless of how such cuts are being administered by the individual governments of each state.

It seems to be an extraordinarily pointless protest, particularly given (as noted above) the tacit acceptance of government cuts that seemed to be part and parcel of the Croke Park agreement to which ICTU was a signatory.
 

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Jason O Mahony » Blog Archive » An Occasional Guide to Irish Politics: The Current Affairs “Debate” show.


On tonight’s show we’ll be debating (Insert topical government spending here). Mary, you have a story to tell us?
Yes I do. I want to know why government policy isn’t rewritten entirely to address my problem?
John, you’re from a local pressure group?
I am. It’s a disgrace that national policy is based on population and not on giving the people of my area whatever we want regardless of economic cost.
Michael, you’re from the opposition?
That’s correct. Can I just say that this government is worse than Hitler and if we get in everybody will get everything they want because we will buy less staples.
Maura, you’ve a point?
Yes. Other people should pay more tax. But I shouldn’t.
Sorry Mary, you want to add something?
Yes. All politicians hate little babies and if we had no government jet we would have found the cure to cancer. We need a government of the ordinary people, by which I mean a government that will do exactly what my family wants regardless of cost to anyone else.
That’s all we have time for. Good night.
 

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How many of these union members have actually lost their jobs? In fact what are the numbers for Union membership and of that number how many are public servants?
 

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The sectional interest group ICTU is protesting about what exactly? They have already signed up to Croke Park; their members will not receive any more pay cuts - so what do they want. I had to laugh at the right to work angle they are using - they can't loose their jobs (Don't anyone tell me they represent private sector also - they don't, they collect money from them ad little else).

Interestingly, the Socialist Part/Eirigi version of this thread was relegated to zoo some time back. So should this one I suspect. I imagine it will be hijacked by the usual rabble
 
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if you have a problem with anglo or the members of the dail you go protest and let nobody stop you, there will be loads of different people and organisations there on the first day of the dail, and none of them are excuse for you not to protest
 

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How many of these union members have actually lost their jobs? In fact what are the numbers for Union membership and of that number how many are public servants?
hehhee... "How many of these union members have actually lost their jobs?".. if they dont have jobs, they're not in a union.... (and i know what you meant.. but couldn't resist)

PSEU memebership is about 92% of possible joiners.
 

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Hypocrites ICTU did everything to let NAMA pass Dail
 

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Berties great mate David Beggs at the end of the demo thanked the Labour TD's who turned up and never thanked the other Oireachtas members who were there,no wonder ICTU is seen as a nodding dog.
 

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I went up at lunch time for a look. No more than 150 - 200 people tops. Utterly pathetic, even by our usual apathetic standards.
 

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There's a picture on the Times website that shows nothing but the socialist jobless in attendance. Do these people not realise that any protest they are involved in alienates the normal people in society.
 

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I went up at lunch time for a look. No more than 150 - 200 people tops. Utterly pathetic, even by our usual apathetic standards.
It wasn't great, but it was more than that - touching 800-1,000 at peak, but a lot drifted away as the speeches started.
 

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There's a picture on the Times website that shows nothing but the socialist jobless in attendance. Do these people not realise that any protest they are involved in alienates the normal people in society.
Ah those who are jobless by choice while dedicating their lives to a socialist paradise . God bless them.
 

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hehhee... "How many of these union members have actually lost their jobs?".. if they dont have jobs, they're not in a union....
That's not the case, many people hold on to membership of their professional group even while out of work, expecially in careers where short term contracts are common. For example unemployed journalists tend to remain in NUJ.
 

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