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ICTY clears two Croatian generals of war crimes


Thac0man

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Interesting development this. The ICTY has overturned the convictions against two leading Croatian generals, over operation Oluja (Storm), which reunited breakaway regions of Croatia still in Serb rebel hands in 1995. The origional convictions said that the two men, Generals Anton Gotovina and Markac, had participated in a 'joint criminal enterprise', and sentenced them to 24 and 18 years respectively. Now the guilty verdict has been overturned on all counts.

BBC News - Hague war court acquits Croat Generals Gotovina and Markac

Is this a case of the prosecution stretching too far in describing the reunification of Croatia, from forces that sought to carve it up and add parts of its to Serbia proper, as a "joint criminal enterprise"? The judgement in the original case not only stood against the two generals, but also the actions of the Croatian government in reuniting its territory and overturning a rebel Serb occupation that had been achieved through ethnic cleansing. A case of damned if you do, damned if you don't. The Serb leaders of the recaptured Krajina region are already in jail after pleading guilty to ethnic cleansing in preparation for uniting it with 'Greater Serbia'.

Needless to say the government in Belgrade is annoyed. But should it be? These are events that took place in another country that was never recognised as Serbia (Greater or otherwise). Events that are now recognised as not being aimed at doing what the Serb leadership itself did, and supported. If Serbia is so deeply in denial, can it be long before it starts another war based on suspect claims of revenge? Should Serbia simply be happy with not being lumbered with reparitions and keep quiet? Or is it determined to make thigs worse for itself?
 

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These patriotic Croation soldiers should never have been prosecuted.

Serbia should have been saddled with reparations.
 

milestogo

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Croatia/Germany.....The Croats were never going to serve their sentences.
 

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These patriotic Croation soldiers should never have been prosecuted.

Serbia should have been saddled with reparations.
Hmmph! Perhaps the Court should have gone for a more minimalist charge...concentrated on the minutiae of war crimes and avoided the political questions.
 
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Dylan2010

These patriotic Croation soldiers should never have been prosecuted.

Serbia should have been saddled with reparations.
lol..as we know from history reparation never cause any problems down the road. Are you a product of the Irish education system?
 

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Complete joke. The hypocrisy of the "international community" ie The US and Western Europe shouldn't surprise anyone. They have twisted the public perception of the conflict in the balkans into poor little catholic conservative Croatia standing up to brutal Serbia. The Germans have been financing Croatian terrorism since WW2 and conti nue to do so today.
 

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Will the ICTY clear Bush and Blair of war crimes?
 

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Croatian Generals Gotovina and Markac aqcuitted in the Hague

B92 - News - Hague Tribunal acquits two Croat generals
While the world has been preoccupied with events in Palestine, breaking news is that the Court in the Hague has just acquitted two Croatian Generals who presided over the murder and ethnic cleansing of 200,000 Croatian Serbs from Krajina in 1995.


B92 - Info - Serbia downgrades ties with Hague to "technical"
The reaction from Belgrade has been quite strong. Senior Serbian Government Minister Rasim Ljajic condemned the verdict by stating -
"This ruling is a slap in the face of international justice and the process of reconciliation in the region, and will not contribute to an overall normalization of relations between the states and the peoples in the region of the former Yugoslavia,"
Another telling part from the article is this -
The Hague Tribunal was due to organize a conference in Belgrade on November 22, but in the wake of today's acquittal, none of Serbia's state officials would attend, Ljajić also revealed. Serbia also decided not to offer "any sort of logistical support" in order to organize the conference.
Meanwhile, the tribunal said that it "regretted to inform" that the conference in Belgrade had been canceled, while "a new date would be announced as soon as possible".

Ljajić explained that Hague Judge Fausto Pocar, who was against the acquittal of Ante Gotovina and Mladen Markač, had canceled his participation in the conference as well.
This is an absolute travesty of justive for both Serbs and Croats. For Serbs it's another slap in the face to the victims of ethnic cleansing and neo-fascism. For Croats, it allows an ugly past to effectively remain and be a part of national collective identity, which will undoubtedly further hinder reconciliation with Serbs.
 

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This is a disgraceful verdict. The Croats were evey bit as guilty as the Serbs for what happned.
 

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This is a disgraceful verdict. The Croats were evey bit as guilty as the Serbs for what happned.
Its seems that there was intense lobbying on behalf of the US for the Generals acquittal.

Hrvati anga

The verdict ties in nicely with Croatia's accession to the EU on January 1st.
 

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Its seems that there was intense lobbying on behalf of the US for the Generals acquittal.

Hrvati anga

The verdict ties in nicely with Croatia's accession to the EU on January 1st.
Desperate stuff. :-x
 

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Former KLA Commander, Ramush Haradinaj's appeal against his sentence comes up in the Hague Court next week. Haradinaj who is accused of murdering hundreds of Serbs, Roma and Albanians under his custody will undoubtedly be set free as well.
 

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Its seems that there was intense lobbying on behalf of the US for the Generals acquittal.
I think your phrasing here could give people the completely wrong understanding of what went on. There was NO lobbying on behalf of the US. There was lobbying on behalf of his Croatian supporters who employed a private American professional lobbying company to assist them, there was no involvement by the US government or any of its agencies as your statement implies.
 

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I think people would do well to remember where the Coats hitched their wagon to in WW2.
 

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Message: if you support the liberal world hegemony you'll get a free pass.

Partizans work in highlighting this is commendable.

Remember now Serbs = Bad Guys.

Is the hague effort part of the ICC?
 
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I think your phrasing here could give people the completely wrong understanding of what went on. There was NO lobbying on behalf of the US. There was lobbying on behalf of his Croatian supporters who employed a private American professional lobbying company to assist them, there was no involvement by the US government or any of its agencies as your statement implies.
If you believe that you are very naive.
 

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As were the Bosnians, Croats, Albanians....

The war in YU has long been painted as black & white, however in reality it was painted with a huge shade of grey.
I remember watching the excellent program "the death of yugoslavia' excellent viewing. Had you seen that yourself? it had interviews with a lot of the local actors.

These libs today just think there is black in white, you are dealing with the breakup of a forced multi ethnic country comprised of ethnic peoples with varying degrees of power.

It would have been better if things went on the lines of the Greek-Turkey ethnic exchange which was sort of civil. But that certainly wasnt going to happen when you had tossers like US General Wesley Clarke saying monocultural countries had no place in the world and the bad guys=serbs narrative which was promoted.

Feel the US could have pushed for that, but they couldnt due to the prevailing liberal orthodoxy.

Then again..?
 
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