I'd Vote Fianna Fáil again



collina

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Well i would if was employed in the protected Civil Service, Semi State or the wealthier in this Country
Sick post. Who voted for Lowry before he supported the government?
 

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Well i would if was employed in the protected Civil Service, Semi State or the wealthier in this Country
The only people who will vote Fianna Fail are the simpletons who look on following a Political Party like following Man Utd or Liverpool . My team right or wrong.
 

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The (now sadly deceased) political correspondent of the Irish Times for many years, Dick Walsh, told a story of his father (an independent minded Clareman) having a discussion with a neighbour, an intense Fianna Fail supporter.

"My family were in Fianna Fail since the Rising!" boasted this man.

"The 1916 Rising?", said Walsh's Da, about to pounce.

"No, the 1798 Rising", responded the FF-er, which left Walsh Snr speechless.

There is an old view of FF as indistinguishable from "the plain people of Ireland", a party that is a "movement" and not a party in the usual sense. That was Fianna Fail's populism, and it will still garner it many votes, at least enough transfer to get a good few TDs elected.
 
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The only people who will vote Fianna Fail are the simpletons who look on following a Political Party like following Man Utd or Liverpool . My team right or wrong.
Most who have been protected by the Croke Park agreement will vote them , why? because FG have shown their cards and have stated that they would shed 30,000 Public service jobs so i know if i was employed in the Public service Id be voting FF again , its the private service who have suffered most , you must work in the Public service I presume
 

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I think the problem with FF is that it has become to centre right - my late father and grandfather would be turning in the grave with the carry on of such people within FF. The budget is very much in favour of the well off -why for instance should a college lecturer be paid around 50% more here than in europe.

I very much fear that society will breakdown even more in this two tier society

Brian cowan is an embarrassing taoiseach - very much a judas. only i'm a catholic i would very much like if cowan, bertie ahern, dermot ahern, noel dempsey, charlie mcgreedy and micheal martin hung for treason
 

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Fianna fail have protected the civil service for now , but this a falacy as if we do not achieve growth , their heads and pay will be slashed

Private sector workers, the unemployed must turn out on mass at the General election & vote for parties & independents that will represent them not for the parties & independents attempting to keep the status quo

So far Fianna Fail and to lesser extent Fine Gael have not have much to say about assisting private sector workers or the unemployed - so I will not be voting for them
 

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I think the problem with FF is that it has become to centre right - my late father and grandfather would be turning in the grave with the carry on of such people within FF. The budget is very much in favour of the well off -why for instance should a college lecturer be paid around 50% more here than in europe.

I very much fear that society will breakdown even more in this two tier society

Brian cowan is an embarrassing taoiseach - very much a judas. only i'm a catholic i would very much like if cowan, bertie ahern, dermot ahern, noel dempsey, charlie mcgreedy and micheal martin hung for treason
There is nothing centre-right about FF anymore. Their spending has been well up there with the best of socialist parties, highest dole, government pensions, best paid civil servants in Europe.

The problem with Ireland is that we don't have a fiscally responsible centre-right party like the Conservatives.
 

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FF will go away and lick their wounds. They have a lot of rebuilding to do, but if they at some point in the future put together a slate of candidates and a policy platform that seems to indicate that they may be the best group to run the country, I will vote for them.

I love the way posters on here bemoan the fact that people vote FF just because their family always has, and then say they would never vote for them. It is two sides of the same coin.

The sooner the people of Ireland leave the civil war behind and start voting on the basis of manifestos the better.
 

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There is nothing centre-right about FF anymore. Their spending has been well up there with the best of socialist parties, highest dole, government pensions, best paid civil servants in Europe.

The problem with Ireland is that we don't have a fiscally responsible centre-right party like the Conservatives.

Well, we had the Progressive Democrats (two lies in the name(Eamonn McCann)) who were fiscally.....................oh, hang on, they were also responsible for the clusterfkuc we are now in.............

The people had the wisdom to vote the PDs into oblivion (although some detritus lives on). The people will get the opportunity soon to vote the main architects of our national humiliation into oblivion also.

PS. Fiscal responsibility is not in the sole ownership of the right.
 

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). The people will get the opportunity soon to vote the main architects of our national humiliation into oblivion also.
Yes the people have the opportunity but we all know they will fu*k it up hugely as FF will most likely only lose 35-40 seats.
 

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Yes the people have the opportunity but we all know they will fu*k it up hugely as FF will most likely only lose 35-40 seats.
I fear you are probably right. It's like.......

"Well", said the doctor, " the patient has cancer so we are going to operate and get rid of some of it".
 

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Well i would if was employed in the protected Civil Service, Semi State or the wealthier in this Country
Whatever about the wealthier, public servants (particularly post 95) will see a further significant reduction in their net pay due to the 4 year plan's changes to the tax/ prsi/ health levy relief changes on pensions and the pension levy. That's obviously above the tax rate and bracket changes - if you think that net public sector pay in total and individually won't be down significantly you need a new calculator.
 

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What do FF stand for? Seriously, I have asked this question many times and still have not got an answer. Correct me if I am wrong but from history If I remember correctly, FF were opposition to the treaty. The treaty gave us 26 counties.
FF have been in power for the majority of the time since 1922....we still have 26 counties.
So again I ask. What do FF stand for?
 

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Most who have been protected by the Croke Park agreement will vote them , why? because FG have shown their cards and have stated that they would shed 30,000 Public service jobs so i know if i was employed in the Public service Id be voting FF again , its the private service who have suffered most , you must work in the Public service I presume
As a commentator said, the Croke Park agreement is protected until after the election. The goal is to get another 5 years for Fianna FAIL in Government :(
 

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What do FF stand for? Seriously, I have asked this question many times and still have not got an answer. Correct me if I am wrong but from history If I remember correctly, FF were opposition to the treaty. The treaty gave us 26 counties.
FF have been in power for the majority of the time since 1922....we still have 26 counties.
So again I ask. What do FF stand for?

Corruption, pure and simple.
 

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The sooner the people of Ireland leave the civil war behind and start voting on the basis of manifestos the better.
We may well have a new civil war on the way, so the old allegiances will get shaken up and replaced with new ones.
 

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Like how they looked after the Garda that are already in service as they will need them more and more to keep people from getting through the gates of Leinster House . Make sure you keep them our your side boys as it looks like the 24 hour garda protection for Ministers mightn't be as much of a waste of tax payers money as we thought .
 

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As a commentator said, the Croke Park agreement is protected until after the election. The goal is to get another 5 years for Fianna FAIL in Government :(
The damage was done to Public servants wages before the Croke Park agreement, i had a 25% drop in my net pay, so distaste in the Public Service for FF is well embedded and will be reflected in the GE.
 


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