If You See Islam As A Big Problem, What Is Your Solution?

RasherHash

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The majority of the Irish population didn't support the Rising. There was no respect for their wishes though. As for Irish men fighting any kind of war in this day and age, well I don't see many volunteering tbh. I think most of them would be holding the door open for the invading force and arguing for the human rights of the opposing force.
The majority are usually sheep who do as they are told on pain of a small fine.
 


Lagertha

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The majority are usually sheep who do as they are told on pain of a small fine.
Funny how the minority with the skin in the game are the ones who criticise the poor majority who have no say in the matter but a hell of a lot more to lose. People would have been happy with Home Rule, but a few gobshites had delusions of grandeur and the actual will of the people meant fook all to them.
 

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The hijab is not a religious requirement, it's a political statement. Just as a woman wearing a niqab or burka is making an even more militant statement.
How can you say that? No woman in her right mind, living in the western world, chooses to wear a niqab or burka. A woman in a niqab/burka is an oppressed woman.
 

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I have a suspicion that the practice of islsmic weddings not being registered with the state is more widespread than it should be. Women in such marriages are then in a much weaker position to assert their rights should the marriage break down. I think the practice needs to be investigated and if found to be happening, it needs to be made illegal. And enforced. A city centre mosque was mentioned in a casual aside to another story in the Irish Times to have married a 16 year old who nay not have understood exactly what was happening. I find it incredible that there was not more about this. An imman who is in any way involved in such a sordid happening deserves serious sanction. But even if both are adults, a marriage should be registered with the state, not doing so is breathtakingly arrogant.
 

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Still no fatwa declared on female genital mutilation from Ibrihim Halawas old man in Clonskeagh. Why?
 

Lagertha

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I have a suspicion that the practice of islsmic weddings not being registered with the state is more widespread than it should be. Women in such marriages are then in a much weaker position to assert their rights should the marriage break down. I think the practice needs to be investigated and if found to be happening, it needs to be made illegal. And enforced. A city centre mosque was mentioned in a casual aside to another story in the Irish Times to have married a 16 year old who nay not have understood exactly what was happening. I find it incredible that there was not more about this. An imman who is in any way involved in such a sordid happening deserves serious sanction. But even if both are adults, a marriage should be registered with the state, not doing so is breathtakingly arrogant.
Wonder how the recent referendum on recognising foreign divorces in Ireland will be in relation to Sharia law. Sharia law is the law of the land in Muslim countries so some lad who says I divorce you x amount of times to his wife, as is the custom, is then free to come to Ireland and marry some European woman in a sham marriage with the hope of being allowed to stay here and ultimately be given citizenship here, while his one or several ex wives are left in some other country with no way of supporting themselves or their children.
 

soubresauts

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You honestly believe that? :ROFLMAO:
Of course I do.

I guess you just haven't thought it through.

A woman in a niqab/burka:
  • Cannot integrate in the society she resides in.
  • Cannot engage in two-way communication on an equal footing.
  • Cannot pick up her children from nursery or school.
  • Cannot learn the local language.
  • Cannot do business in the normal way.
  • Cannot go into a bank.
  • Cannot go into a post office.
  • Cannot ask for directions on the street.
  • Cannot ride a bicycle or motorbike.
  • Cannot drive a car.
  • Cannot go to a restaurant, or even a coffee-shop.
  • Cannot visit a doctor or dentist in the normal way.
  • Cannot pass through an airport in the normal way.
  • Cannot engage in sports or social activities.
  • Makes strangers who see her feel uncomfortable.
  • Is seen as a threat to our security.
  • Is unemployable.
  • Is pretty much confined to her home where her slavedriver, I mean, husband wants to keep her as a baby factory. And the husband is the one making the "political statement".
Those are just a few of the many good reasons why the niqab/burka should be banned.

Learn more.
 

Lagertha

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Of course I do.

I guess you just haven't thought it through.

A woman in a niqab/burka:
  • Cannot integrate in the society she resides in.
  • Cannot engage in two-way communication on an equal footing.
  • Cannot pick up her children from nursery or school.
  • Cannot learn the local language.
  • Cannot do business in the normal way.
  • Cannot go into a bank.
  • Cannot go into a post office.
  • Cannot ask for directions on the street.
  • Cannot ride a bicycle or motorbike.
  • Cannot drive a car.
  • Cannot go to a restaurant, or even a coffee-shop.
  • Cannot visit a doctor or dentist in the normal way.
  • Cannot pass through an airport in the normal way.
  • Cannot engage in sports or social activities.
  • Makes strangers who see her feel uncomfortable.
  • Is seen as a threat to our security.
  • Is unemployable.
  • Is pretty much confined to her home where her slavedriver, I mean, husband wants to keep her as a baby factory. And the husband is the one making the "political statement".
Those are just a few of the many good reasons why the niqab/burka should be banned.

Learn more.
Such naivety. Take a look around Britain and most EU countries with large Muslim populations and you will find that it most definitely is a personal choice in very many cases. If anything the most unwilling women wearing it are in Islamic countries like Iran where women taking part in protests to stop being forced to wear a hijab are often sentenced to long prison sentences. The Syrian women coming to Ireland will not shake hands with men and the Syrian men won't shake hands with women. They're happy enough to take the homes we give them and the Social Welfare benefits but don't expect integration cause it ain't gonna happen.
 

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Of course I do.

I guess you just haven't thought it through.

A woman in a niqab/burka:
  • Cannot integrate in the society she resides in.
  • Cannot engage in two-way communication on an equal footing.
  • Cannot pick up her children from nursery or school.
  • Cannot learn the local language.
  • Cannot do business in the normal way.
  • Cannot go into a bank.
  • Cannot go into a post office.
  • Cannot ask for directions on the street.
  • Cannot ride a bicycle or motorbike.
  • Cannot drive a car.
  • Cannot go to a restaurant, or even a coffee-shop.
  • Cannot visit a doctor or dentist in the normal way.
  • Cannot pass through an airport in the normal way.
  • Cannot engage in sports or social activities.
  • Makes strangers who see her feel uncomfortable.
  • Is seen as a threat to our security.
  • Is unemployable.
  • Is pretty much confined to her home where her slavedriver, I mean, husband wants to keep her as a baby factory. And the husband is the one making the "political statement".
Those are just a few of the many good reasons why the niqab/burka should be banned.

Learn more.
I take it that the list above works in theory more than practice. It’s even possible too that it exists more among recent arrivals than longer term and settled Muslims. I’ve seen such women - sometimes fine looking ones too - walk along dutifully behind some little camel jockey type in Limerick. Whereas in Paris, where they can be multi generational, I’ve noticed women in hijabs giving their old men some serious stick from time to time.
 

soubresauts

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I take it that the list above works in theory more than practice. It’s even possible too that it exists more among recent arrivals than longer term and settled Muslims. I’ve seen such women - sometimes fine looking ones too - walk along dutifully behind some little camel jockey type in Limerick. Whereas in Paris, where they can be multi generational, I’ve noticed women in hijabs giving their old men some serious stick from time to time.
Either you didn't read what I wrote or you don't know the difference -- big difference! -- between niqab/burka and hijab.

Islam may present various problems, but at least one problem can be solved in a very simple way -- ban the niqab/burka.
 

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It underlines the imperative to dispose of denominational education. The Trojan Horse scandal in the UK in 2014 illustrated the danger of denominational education being used to radicalise the next generation of Muslims in the West. If Catholicism is incompatible with modernity on issues like LGBT rights, womens bodily autonomy and contraception, then radical Islam is all the more so. You only have to look at how most Muslim countries are governed in terms of women's and LGBT rights not to mention democracy and capital punishement for blasphemy.
 

Lagertha

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I take it that the list above works in theory more than practice. It’s even possible too that it exists more among recent arrivals than longer term and settled Muslims. I’ve seen such women - sometimes fine looking ones too - walk along dutifully behind some little camel jockey type in Limerick. Whereas in Paris, where they can be multi generational, I’ve noticed women in hijabs giving their old men some serious stick from time to time.
I heard there was an incident in a shop on Henry Street in Limerick recently where 2 female paramedics needed a Garda escort to gain entrance to treat a patient, apparently being female they weren't welcome. Could be wrong but as far as I know the shop is owned the the Muslim man who ran in the recent Limerick elections.
 

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I heard there was an incident in a shop on Henry Street in Limerick recently where 2 female paramedics needed a Garda escort to gain entrance to treat a patient, apparently being female they weren't welcome. Could be wrong but as far as I know the shop is owned the the Muslim man who ran in the recent Limerick elections.
A completely unverifiable, third party, hearsay anecdote and this is meant to be accepted as proof of what about Muslims?

I can't help but notice that almost all of these horror stories you post about Muslims, immigrants, people of other races in general, are all anecdotal.

I can't possibly think why that might be...
 

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A completely unverifiable, third party, hearsay anecdote and this is meant to be accepted as proof of what about Muslims?

I can't help but notice that almost all of these horror stories you post about Muslims, immigrants, people of other races in general, are all anecdotal.

I can't possibly think why that might be...
Rainmaker in to bat for Allah again. Thing is Many of these stories are true and are not covered in the media. For you no comments critical of Islam are allowed no matter what the veracity. Your dogmatic stance is hey "no issues here, now move on quickly please"
 


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