India's Evil Twin

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The paradigm of the Evil Twin has featured in various fictional genres over the years. Invariably, the he/she is physically identical to his/her sibling but is a polar opposite when it comes to behaviour and morals. Frequently, there is bitterness and jealousy at the success and popularity of the Good Twin which only accentuates the tendency of the Evil one towards evil.

In just under two weeks times, a very famous set of twins will celebrate their 70th birthdays. One came into existence at midnight on August 14th, 1947 while the other was born the following day, August 15th.

I'm referring - respectively - to Pakistan and India. The partition of what was the old British Raj territory of India resulting in a smaller India, West Pakistan and East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) was exceptionally bitter with much sectarian bloodletting. Both countries were desperately poor but Pakistan was slightly wealthier and there was a general agreement that, of the two, the country had better prospects being religiously homogenous - the whole point of the country was that it was a state for Muslims.

In the first few decades, Pakistan did indeed pull ahead economically There was an influx of well-educated Urdu speaking Muslims from what is now India. These were known as the Muhajirs and their expertise was a huge advantage to the young country. Yet, their domination of Pakistani politics eventually came to be a source of resentment from those Pakistanis who considered themselves to be "natives" and this tension was to be a feature of the numerous coups and attempted coups that have blighted Pakistani politics ever since.

And there's the rub. Pakistani democracy has never bedded in and the country has spent nearly half of its 70 years under military rule. The army in Pakistan is hugely powerful with huge economic resources to hand. Few politicians dare to challenge it and those who are seen to threaten it don't survive politically. Or perhaps not at all.

There was also the appalling fate of East Pakistan. The Bengalis of East Pakistan made up a majority of the population of all of Pakistan and contributed most of Pakistan's export income. However, East Pakistanis did not have a proportional share of political power and economic benefits within Pakistan with public spending and foreign aid being heavily slanted towards West Pakistan. This eventually led to an uprising in 1969. East Pakistan eventually broke free in 1971 to form the new state of Bangladesh but not before months of horrific slaughter by the Pakistani army which saw between 500,000 and 3 million Bengalis being killed in a genocide that the world has forgotten.

Those who believe that democracy is essential for any country to make the transition to a first world economy will find much to bolster their argument in India. While Pakistani democracy has stumbled from birth, India has been staunchly democratic since 1947. Socialist policies did hold the country back economically for decades however it has consistently been one of the fastest growing states for years and is now outpacing China, a country whose centrally planned economy is showing signs of coming off the rails.

From Tata Motors to Infosys, Wipro and Maruti, more and more Indian companies are now global leaders in numerous fields. India probably has the most advanced space exploration capabilities in the world outside of the USA and Russia.

However, Pakistan is turning into a nightmare. The economy stumbles from one crisis to another. The ongoing bloody (and entirely unprovoked) campaign by Sunni extremists against the country's Shiite minority is reaching such a level of intensity that it's being referred to as a Shia genocide. The recent removal of the prime minister was basically a military coup with a veneer of questionable legality being given to it by pro-army elements in the Supreme Court.

Formerly, the United States would have regarded Pakistan as its key ally in south Asia. The country played a huge role in the USA's undermining of the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s. Now, even American lawmakers have seen the light with much criticism of the country's role in backing extreme Islamists and a bill coming before the House of Representatives declaring Pakistan a "state sponsor of terrorism".

The contrast couldn't be greater. While India surges ahead in the sciences, space exploration and information technology, Pakistan is leading the world in poverty, dictatorship, murderous terrorism and chaos.
 


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The contrast couldn't be greater. While India surges ahead in the sciences, space exploration and information technology, Pakistan is leading the world in poverty, dictatorship, murderous terrorism and chaos.
you ever worked in an office with some of its diaspora ? i can only report a rather unpleasant experience, and more than once at that.



and anyways, the evil twin of the republic of ireland is Eastern Ulster. A twin in terms of weather, legalised abortion, dependency on welfare handouts and hypocrisy. And different in terms of what football team it supports.....Chelsea.
 

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What about Bangladesh? How have they fared since they broke away from the Evil Twin?
 

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Pakistan is a country that's sorely beset by ignorance as manifested in it's religious form.

It's socially a backwards country with some truly medieval parts. India seems harsh but they at least seem to be moving into the 19th century but Pakistan seems to be trying to go backwards to the 7th century.
 

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you ever worked in an office with some of its diaspora ? i can only report a rather unpleasant experience, and more than once at that.
I've rarely had a problem with individual Pakistanis. However, the country's ruling elite is only interested in:
- self-enrichment
- undermining India
- treating Afghanistan as its backyard
 

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The perpetrators of the Rochdale/Rotherham paedophile ring were harking from which country ? i can only ask the question, but google the newspapers yourself if you are curious.
 

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What about Bangladesh? How have they fared since they broke away from the Evil Twin?
Islamists have become much more influential. The war against West Pakistani dominance was non-sectarian and based in many ways around the Bengali language. That has all gone now.
 

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Do please elaborate.

You usually do.
As probably the greatest Christian novelist of our times who also happens to be from Goa a nation occupied by the Hindu Fascist regime said; "Grab your gun your Ghandi or we are going to get raped". This caused massive controversy in India with her being labelled "The respectable voice of Naxalism". I knew a girl who was the stereotype of what a lot of people think Left wing Christians are like, all fluffy bunnies and cucumber sandwiches (she actually even a Vicar's daughter)- well she went to do Volunteer work in India and came back a Five Point Calvinist.

But enough of my yapping which you will probably dismiss anyway, are you comfortable with this?

House Of Refuge Girls Home

India: Young girls dedicated as temple prostitutes, begin duties as early as 11-years-old | God Reports

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2011/jan/21/devadasi-india-sex-work-religion

Psalm 95:6 if you are a Catholic, Psalm 96:5 if you are a Prod- "The gods of the nations are devils, but Hashem created the Heavens".
 

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What about Bangladesh? How have they fared since they broke away from the Evil Twin?
They increased their population from 55 to 163 million all in an area twice the size of Ireland.

It's had women prime ministers since 1988 but at the same time has a massive problem with rape. Supposedly 1/8 men in the rural areas have committed rape. It's in of the highest child marriage rates and about 1/3 of women there think a husband can beat his wife with a 1/4 of women giving arguing back as grounds for a hiding. As a Socialist I'm supposed to pretend that's not happening or say yeah women are choosing their way but screw that cowardice. It's clear that it's a country beset by misogny. But there at least trying to tackle it.

Not surpiring given the misogny and the area they also have a problem with the Fascists who have killed several opponents who we would characterise as left wing types.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Bangladesh
 

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As probably the greatest Christian novelist of our times who also happens to be from Goa a nation occupied by the Hindu Fascist regime said; "Grab your gun your Ghandi or we are going to get raped". This caused massive controversy in India with her being labelled "The respectable voice of Naxalism". I knew a girl who was the stereotype of what a lot of people think Left wing Christians are like, all fluffy bunnies and cucumber sandwiches (she actually even a Vicar's daughter)- well she went to do Volunteer work in India and came back a Five Point Calvinist.

But enough of my yapping which you will probably dismiss anyway, are you comfortable with this?

House Of Refuge Girls Home

India: Young girls dedicated as temple prostitutes, begin duties as early as 11-years-old | God Reports

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2011/jan/21/devadasi-india-sex-work-religion

Psalm 95:6 if you are a Catholic, Psalm 96:5 if you are a Prod- "The gods of the nations are devils, but Hashem created the Heavens".
Goa was a Portuguese colonial enclave and the Indians did try to restore local control via peaceful diplomacy. However, that failed.

Look, many ugly things happen in many nations and the poorer they are, the uglier they can be.

You need to be making comparisons with Pakistan.

India is moving forward: Pakistan is moving backwards.
 


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