IRA "Undefeated Army" T-shirts

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SINN Fein has been accused of "supporting
terrorism and justifying dissidents" with the sale of an IRA T-shirt emblazoned with
the statement "Undefeated Army" on their website.
TUV vice chairman Keith Harbinson said Sinn Fein were continuing to laud the "murderous IRA as heroes".

The online republican store states: "A black T-shirt to wear in memory of the IRA members struggle." It adds: "A catching motto for this very-wellftting T-shirt."

Mr Harbinson said: "With so-called dissident republicans fexing their muscle once again over the weekend it is noteworthy that Sinn Fein/IRA continue to openly align themselves with terror.

"On Sinn Fein's offcial website it is still possible to purchase a T-shirt which features armed terrorists and the slogan 'IRA Undefeated Army'.

"Additionally the 2011 issue of their notorious republican resistance calendar is on sale."

The 2011 calendar is billed on the website as a commemoration of the 30th anniversary of the 1981 hunger strike.

"This calendar contains images from that period, from inside the prisons and on the streets across Ireland and the world as Thatcher's attempts to criminalise and break the republican struggle were defeated," the website states.

"We salute their memory. We continue their struggle."

The TUV chairman said both items were manifestly "incompatible with democratic politics".

"They help to legitimise the actions of those who continue to plant bombs such as that at the international airport at the weekend," Mr
Harbinson added.

A Sinn Fein spokesman refuted the claims made by Mr Harbinson and described his comments as "another feeble attempt to grab a headline".

"I don't think anyone will be in the least bit surprised by this latest outburst from Keith Harbinson, it is just the same old predictable statements designed to maintain his party's profle."

When asked whether the T-shirt and calendar were a justifcation for the ongoing dissident violence, the Sinn Fein spokesman said: "Republicans have been remembering the role played by the IRA day and daily, and
these items are one way in which they want to do that.

"As far as we are concerned there was only ever one IRA, and we have no other connection whatsoever with these other groups or individuals.

"It is silly to say these commemorative items for sale on the website are in some way a justifcation for these groups, but it is typical
of the TUV."
 


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Do mainstream Republicans believe that the IRA are an undefeated army?
 

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Do mainstream Republicans believe that the IRA are an undefeated army?
If they do they are insane....There was one PSF concillour on this forum who got banned who didnt believe me when I said that there were English Roman Catholic MPs in Westminister in the 19 th century who believed that but he was as we say in Dublin for the birds....
 

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It's posturing for the voters .....

Meanwhile the dissidents will say - like in Ulrike's country after WWI - the "army" were not beaten but betrayed by politicians ....
I think they're actually quite likely to say the IRA were beaten. They do in today's Telegraph article, for instance.
 

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Imagine if the Conservative party was selling T Shirts

saying

"Loughall got you all"

"Bobby Gravel- We will never forget you"

and anyway we all know the ira wasnt an army

just a gang of criminals making themselves rich.
 

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Imagine if the Conservative party was selling T Shirts

saying

"Loughall got you all"

"Bobby Gravel- We will never forget you"

and anyway we all know the ira wasnt an army

just a gang of criminals making themselves rich.
I don't think UVF and UDA flags in unionist constituency offices would go down too well either.
 

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And then they wonder why young Nationalists are drawn to the 'glamour' of joining a dissident group???

These t-shirts, calendars, god awful songs, wall murals and commemorations need to stop before another generation of young Nationalists waste their lives in prisons or end up in graveyards in a pointless, unwinnable battle.

Admit the IRA were wrong Gerry - if you truly cared about the future of your young constituents you would do it.

They need to know IRA violence is completely pointless.
 

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And then they wonder why young Nationalists are drawn to the 'glamour' of joining a dissident group???

These t-shirts, calendars, god awful songs, wall murals and commemorations need to stop before another generation of young Nationalists waste their lives in prisons or end up in graveyards in a pointless, unwinnable battle.

Admit the IRA were wrong Gerry - if you truly cared about the future of your young constituents you would do it.

They need to know IRA violence is completely pointless.
The Provies might have gone....But as long as British occupation continues so will the IRA in some shape or form...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAFQ7SLdlt8]YouTube - RIRA Colour Party at Derry 32CSM Easter Commemoration 2010[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9MOXZYo0Wo&feature=related]YouTube - Continuity IRA Video[/ame]
 

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We have peace in this country from the efforts of young people who made the extreme efforts of sorting out the problems that some people left behind. How they celebrate is their business, it upsets a lot of people to come to terms to the fact the IRA were not defeated. To celebrate is not support for the small number of people that wouldn't accept the agreement. But for the people who cannot accept what was done for peace in this country they were always there, and I am not talking about the people that want to continue on. Some day we will move on and away from this very childish complaining.
 

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We have peace in this country from the efforts of young people who made the extreme efforts of sorting out the problems that some people left behind. How they celebrate is their business, it upsets a lot of people to come to terms to the fact the IRA were not defeated. To celebrate is not support for the small number of people that wouldn't accept the agreement. But for the people who cannot accept what was done for peace in this country they were always there, and I am not talking about the people that want to continue on. Some day we will move on and away from this very childish complaining.
Where is the 32 county Democratic-Socialist Republic???:confused:

Didnt the Provies surrendur their arms to be destoried??? :confused:

Cop on.
 

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We have peace in this country from the efforts of young people who made the extreme efforts of sorting out the problems that some people left behind. How they celebrate is their business, it upsets a lot of people to come to terms to the fact the IRA were not defeated.
Can you tell us which of the PIRA's objectives were achieved before they called a ceasefire, destroyed all their weapons, accepted the Unionist veto, began encouraging Nationalists to support NI's police and security services and set about administering British rule from Stormont?

 

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Where is the 32 county Democratic-Socialist Republic???:confused:

Didnt the Provies surrendur their arms to be destoried??? :confused:

Cop on.
It had to stop somewhere it was getting nowhere. After 9/11 things changed in the world and negotiations and comprise came into play. We can all live together and change things peacefully.
 

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It had to stop somewhere it was getting nowhere. After 9/11 things changed in the world and negotiations and comprise came into play. We can all live together and change things peacefully.
A lot of lives had to be lost for the IRA to come to this 'epiphany'. Perhaps if they tried the peaceful line in the seventies they would have got a bit further.
 

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It had to stop somewhere it was getting nowhere. After 9/11 things changed in the world and negotiations and comprise came into play. We can all live together and change things peacefully.
Tell that kids begging on the streets of Dublin or the children who cant leave their flats to play because of heroin dealing scum and all that comes along with them protected by the "Guardians of the Peace".....Where is my 32 SOCIALIST Republic???? :confused:
 

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Look everyone is defeated sometime...There is no dishonour in defeat...But there is dishonour in pretending defeat is actually victory.
 

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And thus in the final analysis the NICRA won game set and match.
No because Unionists honestly are convinced that Republicanism equals sectarianism. The hope of a united working class launching an insurrection against British rule is VERY distant....
 


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