iRELAND threatens to take APPLE to court over that €13bn bill

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Varadkar's legal threat to Apple on €13bn tax bill

Taoiseach Leo Varadkar threatened the Government may take Apple to court over the delay in coughing up €13bn in back taxes demanded by the European Commission.

Brussels has already referred Ireland to the European Court of Justice for failing to collect the money more than a year after the technology giant was ordered to pay up.

The Government and Apple have consistently insisted the tax was never owed, and both have appealed the controversial ruling. It has said officials have been working on establishing an escrow fund to house the money once the final amount is calculated.

But Mr Varadkar upped the ante yesterday as he appeared to cast blame for the delay on to Apple. Suggesting a strain in relations between the Government and one of the country's biggest employers, the Taoiseach said the Government didn't want to be in the position where it would have to take legal action against Apple.
Ohhhh ... not all is well between iRELAND & APPLE it seems. Now theres one for the books that I wasnt anticipating.

So at the moment Ireland and Apple are going up against the European Commission in the ECJ while Ireland and the European Commission could be going up against Apple ..

Interesting times!
 


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Take the money. The public deserves and demands it. Sort out the hospitals, build houses and have a party.
 

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Apple will fight this all the way its not like they cant afford a 10 or 15 year legal battle with the EU and Ireland at the same time.
 

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Apple will fight this all the way its not like they cant afford a 10 or 15 year legal battle with the EU and Ireland at the same time.
Yeah but at the same time Ireland AND APPLE are fighting the EU .. How is that going to work?
 

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The Government was grumpy because Snow White (the people) is happy to take the €13bn apple but while some are sleepy and others bashful it would be dopey not to take the €13bn apple to hire doc for when we are sneezy.
 

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Yeah but at the same time Ireland AND APPLE are fighting the EU .. How is that going to work?
If they say they are not paying over any money until after all legal challenges are complete which could be 10 years what can Ireland or the EU do about it? Sweet Feck all thats what.
 

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It'll be lonely 'round the fields of Athenry.
 

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If they say they are not paying over any money until after all legal challenges are complete which could be 10 years what can Ireland or the EU do about it? Sweet Feck all thats what.
Besides which it's still a 'known unknown' that the exact destination of that thirteen billion has yet to be decided. It's down to what profit was generated where by Apple's European operation. Could be that the cash, assuming it's ever paid, will be divided up between a number of countries.

Keep the bunting in its box for a while yet.

Maybe a long while . . .
 

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Tax dodgers apple not paying up supported by the irish tax haven (enabler). This is semantics by the government. They can't be fighting both sides at the same time.
 

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Varadkar's legal threat to Apple on €13bn tax bill



Ohhhh ... not all is well between iRELAND & APPLE it seems. Now theres one for the books that I wasnt anticipating.

So at the moment Ireland and Apple are going up against the European Commission in the ECJ while Ireland and the European Commission could be going up against Apple ..

Interesting times!
The excuse for not taking €13 billion, until very recently, was that the government claimed that it did not possess the expertise to take this money and deposit it in to an escrow bank account. Apparently.

This is the same government which remains the largest shareholder in an Irish "pillar bank"

The cynic might suggest that this government may not have sufficient confidence to lodge this money to any Irish bank for safekeeping.
 

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Reality check Folks

- we aint getting no 13 Billion from Apple

All we will do is pizz off Apple

- and they will look elsewhere to invest...

Which is the EU game plan
 

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Take the money. The public deserves and demands it. Sort out the hospitals, build houses and have a party.

Nice thinking, but the reason the EU is involved is that almost all of the 13 Bn accrued in other EU states.

They'll want most of the 13 Bn, and forever after, which is why it don't make no sense for us to push hard for the crumbs.
 

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Reality check Folks

- we aint getting no 13 Billion from Apple

All we will do is pizz off Apple

- and they will look elsewhere to invest...

Which is the EU game plan
Not really. Escrow scenario was sorted but there was absolutely no mad rush to collect the cash. The EU doing more jumping up and down encourages this public massaging of the optics and nobody is getting any of this money for a very long time, if ever.

And the data centre debacle would have encouraged anyone to invest elsewhere. Nothing quite as offputting as country who can't manage its infrastructure.
 

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Varadkar's legal threat to Apple on €13bn tax bill



Ohhhh ... not all is well between iRELAND & APPLE it seems. Now theres one for the books that I wasnt anticipating.

So at the moment Ireland and Apple are going up against the European Commission in the ECJ while Ireland and the European Commission could be going up against Apple ..

Interesting times!
Not looking good for Athenry.
 

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Reality check Folks

- we aint getting no 13 Billion from Apple

All we will do is pizz off Apple

- and they will look elsewhere to invest...

Which is the EU game plan
So Goodbye, Apple, Google, Del, Facebook, lntel, Deloitte et al. Please take the IT monkeys with you. 'Cos if you don't I can see some social issues.
 

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Not really. Escrow scenario was sorted but there was absolutely no mad rush to collect the cash. The EU doing more jumping up and down encourages this public massaging of the optics and nobody is getting any of this money for a very long time, if ever.

And the data centre debacle would have encouraged anyone to invest elsewhere. Nothing quite as offputting as country who can't manage its infrastructure.
Yes but its not the money they are after

13 Billion lids is chicken feed in an Economy the size of the EU

Its to encourage Apple and other Multinationals to invest in the Central Powers

- rather than an Offshore island....
 


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