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Ireland's Afrikaner Statelet - a legacy of British colonial evil

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The British state never had a right to occupy any part of Ireland nor to mistreat its native population; what it did to the Irish nation was evil. And the Colonists it planted here in order to aid and abet that evil, never had a right to mistreat the native Irish in our own homeland and ditto their descendants. It's time pro-British state Unionists/Colonialists ceased acting like Ireland's version of the supremacist Afrikaners of a bygone South Africa era. Start by confronting the harsh truth, their forefathers were hate-mongers toward their host nation citizens and raised them to perpetuate a vile colonial supremacism and ethnocentric hatred and the evidence (below) proves they excelled at it.

In 1912, the supremacist "British" Unionist community in the north-east of the island Ireland formed and illegally armed their new terrorist group the Ulster Volunteers (Force). They then (as they'd done in the past) began to publicly parade and drill with their terrorist weapons, and warned their UK Government there'd be a bloody insurrection and civil war. That is, if it ratified the majority Irish nation's impending (and ultimately successful) vote in 1912 in the UK Parliament to approve establishing a new all-Ireland democratic Home Rule Parliament (the original British gerrymandered Unionist-dominated parliament in Ireland having been abolished by imposition of the UK's 1800 Act of Union).

In 1920, the British state threatened 'immediate terrible war' if our small Irish nation resisted their intention to partition our island homeland into 2 states - this being the demand by the minority British Unionist community planted on confiscated native Irish land across Ulster to aid and abet subjugation of the Irish. This Hobson's choice; partition or war, was no different to a man holding a gun to a woman's head to exact an "agreement" to rape or kill her, and was issued despite 2 years earlier in the 1918 election the Irish won 75 of Ireland's 108 seats in the UK Parliament on a "sovereign independence" mandate.

Ruaidri Ua Conchobair: Ireland's Afrikaner Statelet - a legacy of British colonial evil



The linked article contains a lot more uncomfortable truths about the supremacist nature of unionism in Ulster.

To unionists: instead of issuing the predictable mindless insults, prove to the board that you are not completely intellectually bereft by reading the article and attempting to defend the unionist position by offering some intelligent counter-arguments, as difficult as that may be.
 


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People like "between the bridges" and "Cruimh" maybe very well off but most Ulster Prods are dirt poor. Also how long is it since the Mc Bride Principles came in also? I think its wrong to imply that most Ulster Prods are some type of "Rhodesian" elite or ever were though they have allowed themselves to be used by evil people (often against their own best interests).
 
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Wow - what a refreshingly different OP - covering new ground for Politics.ie

Abraham Lincoln's famous proposition which created West Virginia: "A minority of a large community who make certain claims for self-government cannot, in logic or in substance, refuse the same claims to a much larger proportionate minority among themselves."
Ulster’s Stand for Union, 1922, Ronald McNeill

How funny to see you use Afrikaner as a derisory term - considering that Irish nationalists supported the Boers :D
 

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The British state never had a right to occupy any part of Ireland nor to mistreat its native population; what it did to the Irish nation was evil. And the Colonists it planted here in order to aid and abet that evil, never had a right to mistreat the native Irish in our own homeland and ditto their descendants. It's time pro-British state Unionists/Colonialists ceased acting like Ireland's version of the supremacist Afrikaners of a bygone South Africa era. Start by confronting the harsh truth, their forefathers were hate-mongers toward their host nation citizens and raised them to perpetuate a vile colonial supremacism and ethnocentric hatred and the evidence (below) proves they excelled at it.

In 1912, the supremacist "British" Unionist community in the north-east of the island Ireland formed and illegally armed their new terrorist group the Ulster Volunteers (Force). They then (as they'd done in the past) began to publicly parade and drill with their terrorist weapons, and warned their UK Government there'd be a bloody insurrection and civil war. That is, if it ratified the majority Irish nation's impending (and ultimately successful) vote in 1912 in the UK Parliament to approve establishing a new all-Ireland democratic Home Rule Parliament (the original British gerrymandered Unionist-dominated parliament in Ireland having been abolished by imposition of the UK's 1800 Act of Union).

In 1920, the British state threatened 'immediate terrible war' if our small Irish nation resisted their intention to partition our island homeland into 2 states - this being the demand by the minority British Unionist community planted on confiscated native Irish land across Ulster to aid and abet subjugation of the Irish. This Hobson's choice; partition or war, was no different to a man holding a gun to a woman's head to exact an "agreement" to rape or kill her, and was issued despite 2 years earlier in the 1918 election the Irish won 75 of Ireland's 108 seats in the UK Parliament on a "sovereign independence" mandate.

Ruaidri Ua Conchobair: Ireland's Afrikaner Statelet - a legacy of British colonial evil



The linked article contains a lot more uncomfortable truths about the supremacist nature of unionism in Ulster.

To unionists: instead of issuing the predictable mindless insults, prove to the board that you are not completely intellectually bereft by reading the article and attempting to defend the unionist position by offering some intelligent counter-arguments, as difficult as that may be.
Suck my balls...

P.S. Get rid of that 118D ya fruit...
 

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While I think it's fair enough to call The Traditional Middle Class misruling PUL elite in The Jaffa Statelette as 'The Afrikaners Of Europe', we should never lose sight of the blatant fact that the Tea Egg Republic is such a classist society that the relationship between the 'Insider Class' here e.g. full time public servants and The absolute fooktard rubbish managerial class in the private sector and ordinary citizens who have to pay for these scum both in money terms and vastly reduced health and life expectancy outcomes is absolutely apartheidal in nature!:mad:
 

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The British state never had a right to occupy any part of Ireland nor to mistreat its native population; what it did to the Irish nation was evil. And the Colonists it planted here in order to aid and abet that evil, never had a right to mistreat the native Irish in our own homeland and ditto their descendants. It's time pro-British state Unionists/Colonialists ceased acting like Ireland's version of the supremacist Afrikaners of a bygone South Africa era. Start by confronting the harsh truth, their forefathers were hate-mongers toward their host nation citizens and raised them to perpetuate a vile colonial supremacism and ethnocentric hatred and the evidence (below) proves they excelled at it.
I always thought you were of Protestant Planter stock yourself IR?
 

between the bridges

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Newsflash: windy howling moon licker has brainfart...
 

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The British state never had a right to occupy any part of Ireland nor to mistreat its native population; what it did to the Irish nation was evil. And the Colonists it planted here in order to aid and abet that evil, never had a right to mistreat the native Irish in our own homeland and ditto their descendants. It's time pro-British state Unionists/Colonialists ceased acting like Ireland's version of the supremacist Afrikaners of a bygone South Africa era. Start by confronting the harsh truth, their forefathers were hate-mongers toward their host nation citizens and raised them to perpetuate a vile colonial supremacism and ethnocentric hatred and the evidence (below) proves they excelled at it.

In 1912, the supremacist "British" Unionist community in the north-east of the island Ireland formed and illegally armed their new terrorist group the Ulster Volunteers (Force). They then (as they'd done in the past) began to publicly parade and drill with their terrorist weapons, and warned their UK Government there'd be a bloody insurrection and civil war. That is, if it ratified the majority Irish nation's impending (and ultimately successful) vote in 1912 in the UK Parliament to approve establishing a new all-Ireland democratic Home Rule Parliament (the original British gerrymandered Unionist-dominated parliament in Ireland having been abolished by imposition of the UK's 1800 Act of Union).

In 1920, the British state threatened 'immediate terrible war' if our small Irish nation resisted their intention to partition our island homeland into 2 states - this being the demand by the minority British Unionist community planted on confiscated native Irish land across Ulster to aid and abet subjugation of the Irish. This Hobson's choice; partition or war, was no different to a man holding a gun to a woman's head to exact an "agreement" to rape or kill her, and was issued despite 2 years earlier in the 1918 election the Irish won 75 of Ireland's 108 seats in the UK Parliament on a "sovereign independence" mandate.

Ruaidri Ua Conchobair: Ireland's Afrikaner Statelet - a legacy of British colonial evil



The linked article contains a lot more uncomfortable truths about the supremacist nature of unionism in Ulster.

To unionists: instead of issuing the predictable mindless insults, prove to the board that you are not completely intellectually bereft by reading the article and attempting to defend the unionist position by offering some intelligent counter-arguments, as difficult as that may be.



Another good OP with the potential for good debate and discussion, but, unfortunately IR it is likely to go the way of other such threads which were butchered and destroyed by unionist deflection, whataboutery and the usual crap they "contribute" to these discussions.

These people seem incapable of rational debate and all they (well most of them) are capable of his sandbagging........end of.
 

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According to the 1912 Census, which I investigated to find my family tree, my Great Grandfather was a docker who was able to afford a live- in housemaid.
My Great-Grandfather was a Catholic from Derry, and his maid was a Protestant from Donegal.
Didnt quite fit the historical narrative I was taught.
 

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P.ie may represent some sort of Purgatory where dead souls, unaware of their demise, are doomed to debate the national question for eternity.
 

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The British state never had a right to occupy any part of Ireland nor to mistreat its native population; what it did to the Irish nation was evil. And the Colonists it planted here in order to aid and abet that evil, never had a right to mistreat the native Irish in our own homeland and ditto their descendants. It's time pro-British state Unionists/Colonialists ceased acting like Ireland's version of the supremacist Afrikaners of a bygone South Africa era. Start by confronting the harsh truth, their forefathers were hate-mongers toward their host nation citizens and raised them to perpetuate a vile colonial supremacism and ethnocentric hatred and the evidence (below) proves they excelled at it.

In 1912, the supremacist "British" Unionist community in the north-east of the island Ireland formed and illegally armed their new terrorist group the Ulster Volunteers (Force). They then (as they'd done in the past) began to publicly parade and drill with their terrorist weapons, and warned their UK Government there'd be a bloody insurrection and civil war. That is, if it ratified the majority Irish nation's impending (and ultimately successful) vote in 1912 in the UK Parliament to approve establishing a new all-Ireland democratic Home Rule Parliament (the original British gerrymandered Unionist-dominated parliament in Ireland having been abolished by imposition of the UK's 1800 Act of Union).

In 1920, the British state threatened 'immediate terrible war' if our small Irish nation resisted their intention to partition our island homeland into 2 states - this being the demand by the minority British Unionist community planted on confiscated native Irish land across Ulster to aid and abet subjugation of the Irish. This Hobson's choice; partition or war, was no different to a man holding a gun to a woman's head to exact an "agreement" to rape or kill her, and was issued despite 2 years earlier in the 1918 election the Irish won 75 of Ireland's 108 seats in the UK Parliament on a "sovereign independence" mandate.

Ruaidri Ua Conchobair: Ireland's Afrikaner Statelet - a legacy of British colonial evil



The linked article contains a lot more uncomfortable truths about the supremacist nature of unionism in Ulster.

To unionists: instead of issuing the predictable mindless insults, prove to the board that you are not completely intellectually bereft by reading the article and attempting to defend the unionist position by offering some intelligent counter-arguments, as difficult as that may be.
Excellent OP but I expect few sympathetic to Unionists will engage. All they do is target isolated disasters by the IRA that inflicted civilian carnage and then tell any of nationalist disposition they must repent and transform their country into a mirror image of Ontario in the 1930s, that's if we're serious about creating the conditions for enticing them to reunification.
 

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Excellent OP but I expect few sympathetic to Unionists will engage. All they do is target isolated disasters by the IRA that inflicted civilian carnage and then tell any of nationalist disposition they must repent and transform their country into a mirror image of Ontario in the 1930s, that's if we're serious about creating the conditions for enticing them to reunification.
Translation: The many...


Ps moi was shacked ye like the OP, shacked moi twas...
 

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According to the 1912 Census, which I investigated to find my family tree, my Great Grandfather was a docker who was able to afford a live- in housemaid.
My Great-Grandfather was a Catholic from Derry, and his maid was a Protestant from Donegal.
Didnt quite fit the historical narrative I was taught.
Our shared history is full of so many twists and turns it makes either set of perceived narratives laughable...
 

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The British state never had a right to occupy any part of Ireland nor to mistreat its native population; what it did to the Irish nation was evil. And the Colonists it planted here in order to aid and abet that evil, never had a right to mistreat the native Irish in our own homeland and ditto their descendants. It's time pro-British state Unionists/Colonialists ceased acting like Ireland's version of the supremacist Afrikaners of a bygone South Africa era. Start by confronting the harsh truth, their forefathers were hate-mongers toward their host nation citizens and raised them to perpetuate a vile colonial supremacism and ethnocentric hatred and the evidence (below) proves they excelled at it.

In 1912, the supremacist "British" Unionist community in the north-east of the island Ireland formed and illegally armed their new terrorist group the Ulster Volunteers (Force). They then (as they'd done in the past) began to publicly parade and drill with their terrorist weapons, and warned their UK Government there'd be a bloody insurrection and civil war. That is, if it ratified the majority Irish nation's impending (and ultimately successful) vote in 1912 in the UK Parliament to approve establishing a new all-Ireland democratic Home Rule Parliament (the original British gerrymandered Unionist-dominated parliament in Ireland having been abolished by imposition of the UK's 1800 Act of Union).

In 1920, the British state threatened 'immediate terrible war' if our small Irish nation resisted their intention to partition our island homeland into 2 states - this being the demand by the minority British Unionist community planted on confiscated native Irish land across Ulster to aid and abet subjugation of the Irish. This Hobson's choice; partition or war, was no different to a man holding a gun to a woman's head to exact an "agreement" to rape or kill her, and was issued despite 2 years earlier in the 1918 election the Irish won 75 of Ireland's 108 seats in the UK Parliament on a "sovereign independence" mandate.

Ruaidri Ua Conchobair: Ireland's Afrikaner Statelet - a legacy of British colonial evil



The linked article contains a lot more uncomfortable truths about the supremacist nature of unionism in Ulster.

To unionists: instead of issuing the predictable mindless insults, prove to the board that you are not completely intellectually bereft by reading the article and attempting to defend the unionist position by offering some intelligent counter-arguments, as difficult as that may be.
Boo hoo.

Dry your legs.
 

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Most people abroad imagined white Afrikaners were living in the lap of luxury and even some white Afrikaners thought that too.

The reality was SA had and still has a major Poor White problem.

This was a legacy of colonialism. The poverty into which they drove the non-Europeans, far from resulting in increased prosperity for the Whites, dragged the majority of them down to almost the same level. Yet that belief in white supremacy remained unshaken; the most poverty-stricken Bywoner, whose income was only' £10 a year, considered himself to be a farmer, not a landless peasant, and thought himself a " Master " in relation to the non-European, who owned no land.

So yes you can see the parallels with Ulster.
 

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