Ireland’s little earthquake: the international tipping point on SSM?

Nudavongs

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I know some people are getting referendum fatigue but honestly, it’s not often that voters in this country do something that causes rumblings around the world. However, the Yes vote at the weekend appears to have done just that. I see no other thread that has shown the international reaction to the vote; much of the comment here has been very domestic, to the point of navel-gazing.

(And this will be my last thread on the issue!)

Italian legislators are suddenly scrambling (with unusual haste, by Italian standards) to implement laws providing same basic recognition for same sex couples - something they’d refused to do before. Italy has been sticking out like a sore thumb in Western Europe for not according any national recognition for gay couples at all.

Meanwhile, Swiss gay rights organisations are increasing the pressure on their government to make the institution of marriage open to same sex couples. Schweizer Lesben- und Schwulenverbände (Swiss Lesbian and Gay Association) and Swiss Rainbow Families have both called for Switzerland to follow Ireland’s lead.

In neighbouring Austria, it has triggered a debate in the media with one newspaper worrying that Austria finds itself as a laggard in gay rights. The article comments, with some sarcasm, that Austria has had one year of “liberalness” thanks to drag queen Conchita Wurst, last year’s Eurovision winner. The Austrian Green Party and NEOS (New Austria - a liberal party) have both released statements indicating that the issue deserves immediate attention in Austria.

Similarly, in Germany, the Irish vote has led to calls for the Federal Republic to end its ban on same sex marriage. Even politicians in Angela Merkel’s right-wing CDU party have echoed calls from the German Greens to make a move on the issue. The “Home to vote” initiative has particularly impressed Germans.

The arch-conservative Australian PM, Tony Abbot is being publicly embarrassed by his gay sister into making a move on the issue. The momentum seems unstoppable already with the only issue to be resolved being whether the issue is decided by the Australian parliament or - like Ireland - via a plebiscite.

In Israel, the left wing Ha’aretz newspaper says Israelis are also ready to embrace gay marriage, pointing out that the mainstream political parties (but not the religious ones) all support it.

Meanwhile, the Vatican is horrified - calling the result a “defeat for humanity”. Che sorpresa!

India's leading Muslim newspaper, The Milli Gazette, isn't impressed either.

Italian PM on Ireland referendum result: We cannot delay civil unions any longer · PinkNews
Irland schreibt Geschichte: Deutliches Ja zur Homo-Ehe - NZZ Aktuelle Themen
L'Irlande dit massivement oui au mariage homosexuel
Irland: Gegner der Homo-Ehe räumen Niederlage in Referendum ein - Irland - derStandard.at
Große Mehrheit in Irland für Homo-Ehe | Nachrichten.at
Österreich braucht die Homo-Ehe - Eric Frey - derStandard.at
German politicians demand moves to follow Irish referendum
http://rt.com/news/261697-germany-same-sex-marriage/
Australian PM Tony Abbott Criticised by His Lesbian Sister - theoutmost.com - Gay Ireland News & Entertainmenttheoutmost.com
Momentum building for gay marriage
Ha'artez: Israelis are ready to follow Ireland's lead and legalize gay marriage
Vatican calls Irish referendum 'a defeat for humanity'.
Milli Gazette: Ireland captured through Gay Army, Satan on the March in West
 
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Uh oooh

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The ************************************s didn't vote for us in eurovision, where were the gays when they have some clout
 
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Israel? They don't even have civil marriage for straights!
 

ne0ica

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Sad news indeed. We once spread Christianity around Europe from these shores.
 

Congalltee

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It's coming anyway.
The campaigners will pay attention to how we did it, ie:
- kis (keep it simple) love, personal stories, equality
- reassuring tone
- social media
- old school media
- no political heavyweights against (government ones holding back)
- faith in marriage
- managed message: mcaleese, daniel o'donnell, BOD, Babs, graybo
- d'experts
- fear of being morto of being a bigot/left behind/uncool/a twat.
 

ne0ica

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Any sign of gay marriage coming to our future bosses in China.
 

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I know some people are getting referendum fatigue but honestly, it’s not often that voters in this country do something that causes rumblings around the world. However, the Yes vote at the weekend appears to have done just that. I see no other thread that has shown the international reaction to the vote; much of the comment here has been very domestic, to the point of navel-gazing.

(And this will be my last thread on the issue!)

Italian legislators are suddenly scrambling (with unusual haste, by Italian standards) to implement laws providing same basic recognition for same sex couples - something they’d refused to do before. Italy has been sticking out like a sore thumb in Western Europe for not according any national recognition for gay couples at all.

Meanwhile, Swiss gay rights organisations are increasing the pressure on their government to make the institution of marriage open to same sex couples. Schweizer Lesben- und Schwulenverbände (Swiss Lesbian and Gay Association) and Swiss Rainbow Families have both called for Switzerland to follow Ireland’s lead.

In neighbouring Austria, it has triggered a debate in the media with one newspaper worrying that Austria finds itself as a laggard in gay rights. The article comments, with some sarcasm, that Austria has had one year of “liberalness” thanks to drag queen Conchita Wurst, last year’s Eurovision winner. The Austrian Green Party and NEOS (New Austria - a liberal party) have both released statements indicating that the issue deserves immediate attention in Austria.

Similarly, in Germany, the Irish vote has led to calls for the Federal Republic to end its ban on same sex marriage. Even politicians in Angela Merkel’s right-wing CDU party have echoed calls from the German Greens to make a move on the issue. The “Home to vote” initiative has particularly impressed Germans.

The arch-conservative Australian PM, Tony Abbot is being publicly embarrassed by his gay sister into making a move on the issue. The momentum seems unstoppable already with the only issue to be resolved being whether the issue is decided by the Australian parliament or - like Ireland - via a plebiscite.

In Israel, the left wing Ha’aretz newspaper says Israelis are also ready to embrace gay marriage, pointing out that the mainstream political parties (but not the religious ones) all support it.

Meanwhile, the Vatican is horrified - calling the result a “defeat for humanity”. Che sorpresa!

Italian PM on Ireland referendum result: We cannot delay civil unions any longer · PinkNews
Irland schreibt Geschichte: Deutliches Ja zur Homo-Ehe - NZZ Aktuelle Themen
L'Irlande dit massivement oui au mariage homosexuel
Irland: Gegner der Homo-Ehe räumen Niederlage in Referendum ein - Irland - derStandard.at
Große Mehrheit in Irland für Homo-Ehe | Nachrichten.at
Österreich braucht die Homo-Ehe - Eric Frey - derStandard.at
German politicians demand moves to follow Irish referendum
http://rt.com/news/261697-germany-same-sex-marriage/
Australian PM Tony Abbott Criticised by His Lesbian Sister - theoutmost.com - Gay Ireland News & Entertainmenttheoutmost.com
Momentum building for gay marriage
Ha'artez: Israelis are ready to follow Ireland's lead and legalize gay marriage
Vatican calls Irish referendum a
The way some people were going on B4 the vote it was like Ireland was the LAST place on Earth that did not have SSM!

Strange none of this was highlighted beforehand BTW :confused:
 

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I am just about all ssm ed out. I think we should have a 2 month mauritorium on all things related to ssm.
 

ne0ica

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The ************************************s didn't vote for us in eurovision, where were the gays when they have some clout
And I heard people here and on FB boast we would be voted winners by the gays around Europe.
 

Catalpast

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It's coming anyway.
The campaigners will pay attention to how we did it, ie:
- kis (keep it simple) love, personal stories, equality
- reassuring tone
- social media
- old school media
- no political heavyweights against (government ones holding back)
- faith in marriage
- managed message: mcaleese, daniel o'donnell, BOD, Babs, graybo
- d'experts
- fear of being morto of being a bigot/left behind/uncool/a twat.
Gain control of the media

- and put the wind up the political class

- the sheep will follow....
 
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Not making much progress, are they?

Marriage in Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Marriages in Israel can be performed under the auspices of the religious community to which couples belong, or for people who have proven to lack any religion, a "couplehood union" with rights and responsibilities akin to marriage, can be performed.[1][2][3] Matrimonial law is based on the Millet or confessional community system employed in the Ottoman Empire, which was not modified during the British Mandate and remains in force in the State of Israel.[4]
 
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What's the asterisks about?
Swear filter.

It's there to prevent people attracting attention from content filters if they open a post in the office.
 
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And I heard people here and on FB boast we would be voted winners by the gays around Europe.
Even when we were knocked out in the advance of the referendum vote?
 


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