Irish connection to the London Attacks



raetsel

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The rock thrown through the window of the Galway mosque gives the Irish left a convenient "look-over-there" opportunity to avoid having to comment on the Irish connection to the London attacks.
Quite the opposite. It gives the racist thugs on this website the opportunity to minimise race hate by saying it was only a few stones, though.
 

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Aye. Formally.
If you are saying that they were doing it on an ad hoc basis previously,
A) have you any evidence of this?
B) Have you any evidence to show that any info sharing system was comprehensive and didn't have large gaps?
Let's put it this way, the British, unlike we Irish are a lot less comfortable with ad hoc/"look-at-it-on-a case-by-case" practices. They are fond of rules and order. What you are suggesting is implausible.
 

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If you are saying that they were doing it on an ad hoc basis previously,
A) have you any evidence of this?
B) Have you any evidence to show that any info sharing system was comprehensive and didn't have large gaps?
Let's put it this way, the British, unlike we Irish are a lot less comfortable with ad hoc/"look-at-it-on-a case-by-case" practices. They are fond of rules and order. What you are suggesting is implausible.
The CTA itself is an arrangement rather than based on international agreement.
 

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The EU needs to change the treaties to make it easier to deny residency to suspected radical Islamic terrorists
 

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Quite the opposite. It gives the racist thugs on this website the opportunity to minimise race hate by saying it was only a few stones, though.
Quite the opposite. Irish based Muslamics go on the rampage in England and we are all to fret over a few stones being thrown at a Galway building housing foreign extremists. Muslamics use this poor us tactic again and again.
 

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The CTA itself is an arrangement rather than based on international agreement.
Which is effectively almost a hundred years old. And there was legislation covering it passed in 1925.
But the Common Travel Area is irrelevant to the issue. There is no proof currently that the Irish state was negligent in giving Rachid Redouane a visa and until such proof is produced the smart thing would be to refrain from blaming Irish officials on the basis of something pulled out of someone's arse. That is the root cause of baseless rumours.
 

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Quite the opposite. Irish based Muslamics go on the rampage in England and we are all to fret over a few stones being thrown at a Galway building housing foreign extremists. Muslamics use this poor us tactic again and again.
One was Irish-based. There are over 60,000 Muslims in the Republic, the vast majority of whom are peaceful, law abiding and make a valuable contribution to the state. There is nothing wrong with condemning attacks by stupid people on some of their number who were engaged in the lawful, peaceful practice of their religious rites. There is plenty wrong with those who try to minimise the effect of the behaviour of thugs who attack vulnerable minorities.
 

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Which is effectively almost a hundred years old. And there was legislation covering it passed in 1925.
But the Common Travel Area is irrelevant to the issue. There is no proof currently that the Irish state was negligent in giving Rachid Redouane a visa and until such proof is produced the smart thing would be to refrain from blaming Irish officials on the basis of something pulled out of someone's arse. That is the root cause of baseless rumours.
IRELAND-UK ACCORD TO FURTHER SECURE THE COMMON TRAVEL AREA

They were sharing info as far back as 2011 according to that link. Rachid came here first in 2012 it was claimed.
 

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I think what's becoming clearer is that there is far less preventative action being taken than we might have thought... and/or that any such action that is happening is far less effective than we might have thought...

Across Europe after practically every atrocity now it seems to emerge that the perpetrators were known to some extent to the relevant authorities...

And in the most recent attack (London Bridge) it seems baffling that at least one and probably all three of the perpetrators weren't under close surveillance and/or behind bars.
 

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One was Irish-based. There are over 60,000 Muslims in the Republic, the vast majority of whom are peaceful, law abiding and make a valuable contribution to the state. There is nothing wrong with condemning attacks by stupid people on some of their number who were engaged in the lawful, peaceful practice of their religious rites. There is plenty wrong with those who try to minimise the effect of the behaviour of thugs who attack vulnerable minorities.

Prove how they make a value able contribution to the state please
 

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You are general ballpark, which could of course be bullseye

Three real world people were heavily behind most of the accounts. Two are dead.

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There are/were a lot more than three of them running around. Then, don't forget the SSinn Fein and other enablers
 

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Maybe someone could explain to me how a guy is refused asylum in the UK and ends up in Ireland .
Cause we are a country of dreams and open hearts or some other such tosh.

It happens because Capitalism wants open borders and because their supposed opponents find that part of Capitalism's plan just lovely and won't go beyond that view full stop.
 
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I think what's becoming clearer is that there is far less preventative action being taken than we might have thought... and/or that any such action that is happening is far less effective than we might have thought...

Across Europe after practically every atrocity now it seems to emerge that the perpetrators were known to some extent to the relevant authorities...

And in the most recent attack (London Bridge) it seems baffling that at least one and probably all three of the perpetrators weren't under close surveillance and/or behind bars.
The guy who said he was on the way to be a terrorist got into Britain for what reason.

Caused he felt his intersectional identity was oppressed in Italy.
No, he got in because once you start to abandon the principle of free movement you begin to pull on a thread that you do not know where it will go.
As a consequence the free movement of cheap labour might be ultimately threatened.
That's one of the biggest reasons​ why there is no stopping these guys.
It threatens the well off. The same well off who don't do much of the dying when the fash strike.
 

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The rock thrown through the window of the Galway mosque gives the Irish left a convenient "look-over-there" opportunity to avoid having to comment on the Irish connection to the London attacks.
Ah here. That isn't even good made up nonsense
 

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I strongly suspect that swathe of the Dublin middle class would love nothing better than Irish born jihadi going on a rampage in Dublin.

They would love nothing better than a world platform for their one love muliti cultural mumbo jumbo.

They would use it as opportunity not to trample Islamist extremism in Ireland but as a tool to crush all those they see as obstacles to their agendas to reshape Ireland.

Expect such nonsense declaring this is why we need to secularize Catholic schools/hospitals and repeat the 8th.

In fact they would probably use is as an opportunity to show the world how we " matured as a nation" and don't blame Muslims or Islam and protest US foreign policy outside the American embassy.

Remember FG/Labour was in charge during one of the largest terrorists incidents of the troubles the Dublin Monaghan bombings.
 

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One was Irish-based. There are over 60,000 Muslims in the Republic, the vast majority of whom are peaceful, law abiding and make a valuable contribution to the state. There is nothing wrong with condemning attacks by stupid people on some of their number who were engaged in the lawful, peaceful practice of their religious rites. There is plenty wrong with those who try to minimise the effect of the behaviour of thugs who attack vulnerable minorities.
So what. I'd feel safer if we had imported 60,000 Buddhists instead.
 


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