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Irish Examiner Editorial - 'We must have an election before Christmas'


Fed Up

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Taken from todays paper:

Democratic deficit - An election has become unavoidable | Irish Examiner

A few choice quotes:

"However, EU Commissioner Olli Rehn warned that no tax changes should be excluded from plans to get the deficit to 3% of GDP within four years.

If this vital, job-generating advantage is lost because of incompetence, delay and cowardice then FF truly deserves the oblivion the polls predict for them."

Now, I have posted many times about my annoyance at people saying FF have no mandate (they do have one, it was given to them in 2007). However, the article successfully points out they do not have a mandate to implement a 4 year budget as it will go well past 2012:

"Nevertheless, that urgency does not give Mr Cowen the authority to initiate such a generation-defining programme that will run long after he has taken his place in the opposition backbenches."

Discuss!
 

Chrisco

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Hear hear! How to make it happen though, because FF sure as hell won't do the right and patriotic thing - call an election - and will hang on to power for dear life.
 

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Very little time left before the mearkets pass judgement. If FF dare bring in a 4 year austerity programme without consulting the people it'll feel like a coup and some people will act accordingly...
 

Tom245

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Dead right. We need an election immediately. We cannot limp into 2011 with a government coming to the end of it's term with no public support or respect. There are many issues to face in early 2011 that this government will be unable to deal with. They have come to the end of the line and should do the decent thing.
 

jmayo

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Hear hear! How to make it happen though, because FF sure as hell won't do the right and patriotic thing - call an election - and will hang on to power for dear life.
No their idea of patriotism is them hanging on to their jobs and the attached multitiude of perks.

For many of the current government they have not had to worry about such thrifling things as road tax and motor insurance over the last 13 years.
They want that state of affairs to continue for as long as possible.

As for decency, it is not in the ff dictionary.
 

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Hear hear! How to make it happen though, because FF sure as hell won't do the right and patriotic thing - call an election - and will hang on to power for dear life.
Is it possible for a Traitor to be a Patriot?
 

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Taken from todays paper:

Democratic deficit - An election has become unavoidable | Irish Examiner

A few choice quotes:

"However, EU Commissioner Olli Rehn warned that no tax changes should be excluded from plans to get the deficit to 3% of GDP within four years.

If this vital, job-generating advantage is lost because of incompetence, delay and cowardice then FF truly deserves the oblivion the polls predict for them."

Now, I have posted many times about my annoyance at people saying FF have no mandate (they do have one, it was given to them in 2007). However, the article successfully points out they do not have a mandate to implement a 4 year budget as it will go well past 2012:

"Nevertheless, that urgency does not give Mr Cowen the authority to initiate such a generation-defining programme that will run long after he has taken his place in the opposition backbenches."

Discuss!
Agreed, Their mandate may extend to the next budget but not the subsequent budgets. There should be an election to decide WHO will decide these budgets.
 

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Agreed, Their mandate may extend to the next budget but not the subsequent budgets. There should be an election to decide WHO will decide these budgets.
Indeed, there seems to be a growing consensus that a pre-budget election would be ideal whereby pre-budget submissions would basically be election manifestos.

This would be ideal IMO, even if it returned FF to power* as we need a strong government to push through what needs to be pushed through with direct prior approval from the electorate.


* I am not a FF supporter. My ideal preference would be a single party FG Govt for at least the next 3 years (being realistic here people!).
 

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More of it again today

Following on from yesterdays editorial, the Examiner today have an editorial asking the electorate to stop and listen, and maybe even see through the spin when it comes to election time:

"The second, [election] when it comes, will be of great significance; it may define our lives for a decade, so we should each turn on our radar and train ourselves to parse and fillet each and every statement.

The air will be thick with promises and possibility, and unless we can filter the marketing from the politics, the actor from the human, the fraud from the patriot, then we’ll more than likely end up where we started.

It’s time to start asking the hard questions and refuse to be told that we don’t understand what’s going on."

Read more: Elections on horizon - It

Now, is this a plea for people to give Enda a chance? Or even more worrying, could it be interpreted that if you cut through the bull-droppings and spin, that only one single party in all the state has any actual policies on how to get us out of this mess?*

Is The Irish Examiner the antidote to the Irish Independant?

*I freely admit my own personal bias may have skewed my interpretation.
 

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The Examiner has always been pro-FG, and appears to have rowed in behind Enda.
 

johntrenchard

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anything coming from a such an insider vested interest like Crosbie & Co. should be taken with a pinch of salt.

the likes of the Examiner is NOT going to get us out of the mess. As soon as the EU overlords take over, they'll be the first to roll over and get their bellies tickled , while going "woof woof"
 

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The Examiner has always been pro-FG, and appears to have rowed in behind Enda.
A paper that was for over a century called The CORK Examiner, then decides to drop the "Cork" in its own name in the pursuit of blind naked greed and money.

They can go fck themselves basically. They have zero kudos as far as i am concerned.

Enda is in good company.
 

Chrisco

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anything coming from a such an insider vested interest like Crosbie & Co. should be taken with a pinch of salt.

the likes of the Examiner is NOT going to get us out of the mess. As soon as the EU overlords take over, they'll be the first to roll over and get their bellies tickled , while going "woof woof"
I am not sure anyone, not even the Examiner, claimed that they were going to 'get us out of this mess'.

A paper that was for over a century called The CORK Examiner, then decides to drop the "Cork" in its own name in the pursuit of blind naked greed and money.

They can go fck themselves basically. They have zero kudos as far as i am concerned.

Enda is in good company.
Jesus! Imagine a struggling newspaper trying to broaden its appeal! The nerve!

I suppose you also stopped reading The Guardian when it dropped 'Manchester' from its title, and bemoan the demise of the Skibbereen Eagle...
 

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Jesus what have I started! :eek:
 
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