Irish General Election 2020 - Candidates, Polls, Predictions and Results



jimbohane

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Fianna Fail are terrified of Sinn Fein getting into power because once in power SF will have access to all the people and files and will be able to expose all the wrong doing that FF and FG have done over the years. Dodgy deals, tenders going to contractors known to be completely inept and the reasons behind them being handed those contracts. It’s a can of worms FF and FG cannot afford to be exposed.
Not to mention the files held in the Dept of Justice going back to the 70's.
 

king5494

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The Republican movement near the end of the troubles was ideological but also had within it criminal, thuggish and yes murdering elements. The GFA changed their world, all of a sudden they had to respect the States North and South's laws, not all agreed with that and were used to having the mini fiefdoms especially along the border, as it is today. Just as the original Sinn Fein broke up and split into various political groups which eventually led FF & FG and the more thuggish Blue Shirts.

My opinion is that over 20 years later anything done by ex elements of the now extinct IRA and other thugs is just been used by the establishment to muddy the waters just for political gain as it feels threatened by a movement previously more represented in working class areas but now actually gaining lots of traction in middle class areas as well.

The State old guard feel threatened, if they try to put a lid on it to hold back this movement by having more FF+FG and the Green (were all going to die brigade), pressure will just continue to mount and eventually explode.

The old Political elite can change slowly to allow this and adapt or keep sticking fingers in the dyke until it runs out of fingers.
 

LISTOWEL MAN

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Eamon Dunphy's friend Tom Humphries was offered therapy but declined

in prison, he shared a landing with Graham Dwyer, and shared a cell with John Tighe who murdered his baby son

while serving his sentence Humphries called a prison officer an "uneducated turnkey"
The officer was reported to have responded: "I would rather be an uneducated turnkey than an educated paedophile"

Tom Humphries was released from prison August 2019
 

Dearghoul

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After reading the last few pages , I was reminded why i stayed away from this site for so long.
The pissing competition and your ma arguments get a bit tedious.
It does but that's the honourable opposition, to give them their full title, and the fact that they still exist to the greater mirth of the many assembled is a source of some satisfaction in a heterogenous world.

Over in the other place the opposition benches seem to have taken the day off, or arn't allowed space which is a bit of a damper.

Suggest you go back there, if open and free ranging debate, even if that only usually involves 'whack a mole' (thanks for that one Malcolm Redfellow) isn't your thing.
 
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StarryPlough01

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*Fianna Fail's REFUSAL to do a deal with Sinn Fein is giving the TWO FINGER SALUTE to Irish voters - the GE RESULT was clearly SF and FG (a tie), with SINN FEIN winning the *Popular Vote*


IT WAS SF WHO GOT THE MANDATE


*Micheal Martin is DENYING his party wants him to step down as leader (hahaha)


about 12 hours ago Updated: about 6 hours ago


Mark Hilliard, Harry McGee, Marie O'Halloran



The Fianna Fáil leader also said nobody in his party had asked him to step down as leader during Thursday’s four-and-a-half hour meeting which, he said, was designed to be an open exchange of views among its members.

^ Possibly not _during_ the meeting, but before and after the meeting is a different story.
 

StarryPlough01

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'Inside the Fianna Fáil meeting: The class sit diligently in front of Micheál but dissenting voices pipe up against deal with Leo'

Philip Ryan and Hugh O’Connell


February 13 2020 07:20 PM

Premium ~



"The Fianna Fáil parliamentary party room is set up like a theatre-style university classroom.​
"The leader sits at the top of the room and the elected members sit diligently in rows of chairs in front of him.​
"There’s a portrait photograph of Micheál Martin on the wall with a tricolour and EU flag on either side of him.​



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Fianna Fáil leader Michéal Martin. Photo: REUTERS/Henry Nicholls


Micheal Martin is looking so wizened.
 

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FG vote would go down again in next GE cos memory still fresh re FG policies failure across the spectrum ranging from trollies to housing to homeless allied with high rent thus savings eroded.

FF along with MM doesn't look good cos he was ex FF 2007. He was there when the financial crash, may know where the skeletons lies.

It takes guts for any FF td to call MM to resign cis mm lost couple of seats for FF. pressure is on him now after he said he won't work with SF. The onus is on him. LV shoukd go as well.
 

mangaire2

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Where are you seeing signs of that happening?
FF/FG will have nothing to do with SF,
so unless they come to some arrangement between themselves, there will have to be another GE - the last thing that FF/EG wants,
so it's going to be a FF/FG arrangement.
 

Dearghoul

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FF/FG will have nothing to do with SF,
so unless they come to some arrangement between themselves, there will have to be another GE - the last thing that FF/EG wants,
so it's going to be a FF/FG arrangement.
It's not in the Greens longer term interests to do the fandango here.
 


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