Irish General Election 2020 - Candidates, Polls, Predictions and Results

Dearghoul

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That's true you didn't.

I'm going to have to get beyond this FF/SF/Greens thing, amn't I?
 


StarryPlough01

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:devilish: *FF GIVE A GINORMOUS F*CK YOU TO IRISH VOTERS* :devilish:



Prospect of new government recedes towards stalemate

Fianna Fáil-Fine Gael coalition would be ‘slap in the face’ for voters, Sinn Féin leader says


about an hour ago


Pat Leahy Political Editor, Harry McGee Political Correspondent, Marie O'Halloran


"The prospect of a new government being formed in the near future receded towards stalemate last night as Fianna Fáil TDs endorsed party leader Micheál Martin’s refusal to discuss a coalition with Sinn Féin.​
"Privately many Fianna Fáil TDs concede this is likely to lead to coalition discussions with Fine Gael, while the Sinn Fein leader Mary Lou McDonald said that any such “grand coalition” would be “a slap in the face” for the electorate which voted for change.​

[...]​

"While a small number of Deputies said they remained open to talks with Sinn Féin, a majority of the party’s 38 TDs backed Mr Martin’s plan to seek to form a government without Sinn Féin participation.​



I cannot imagine who would be prepared to facilitate these two parties back into government for more of the same, ...” - SF Leader Mary Lou McDonald



Mary Lou McDonald said: "Slap in the face" - It's FF giving a GINORMOUS F*CK YOU to the Irish people who voted for CHANGE - not the same regime pulling the strings - snouts in trough - in Ireland for over 100 years. :mad:
 

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GRASSROOTS PARTY MEMBERS CALL FOR FF LEADER MICHEAL MARTIN TO GET THE CHOP… NO POLICIES… just wee personalities...



'If he had any decency he would have resigned already': FF councillor blasts Martin's leadership


Wednesday, February 12, 2020 - 01:32 PM


By Brian Hutton
Shane P O’Reilly, Fianna Fáil cathaoirleach of Cavan County Council:

Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin is facing calls to “consider his position” by grassroots party members in Co Cavan.
[Shane P O’Reilly] "he has “never seen such anger” among party activists as he has since the outcome of the general election.​
Rank and file members countrywide were “absolutely hurting” from the electoral losses, which he blamed on a decision at leadership level to fight the election “not on policy but on personalities”.​

[…]​

Fianna Fáil Cavan councillor John Paul Feely said:
"he was “mystified that the party leader seems to be talking about the formation of a government.”​
[...]​
[...] I think if he had any decency he would have resigned already. (y)
"I think there needs to be a clean sweep in terms of the national organisation.”​



AIN'T THIS THE TRUTH ^^^ They fought the election on "personalities" because they had no policies. People's anger is palpable.
 

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(Sinn Féin addresses everything in a serious manner)
- Mark Keenan



'Home truths: How housing helped change Irish politics'

'The big view on Ireland's property market'


February 14 2020 02:30 AM

Premium

Mark Keenan



RTE's Exit Poll where voters were asked to name their most *Important Voting Issue*:


"At 32pc, health was the keystone issue for almost a third of voters. Next came housing at 26pc, cited by over a quarter. The issue in third place was that of pensions. This was raised by eight per cent of voters. Other bogey issues the main parties had deemed to be priorities were somewhere else, lost, off in the ether.​
"That poll provided the only answer stunned politicians need regarding the outcome of Election 2020. Health and housing: 58pc. Nothing else was even at the races.​
"The voting population didn't undergo a Road to Damascus conversion to republican/socialist ideals. They had two big issues festering and saw Sinn Féin as the only party which (a) grasped their importance and (b) seem to be the only party which might address them in a serious enough manner (Sinn Féin addresses everything in a serious manner).


Sinn Fein listened to the people.
 

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I am merely saying that most voted for a SF led govt. That's all, nothing more. BTW, I didn't

76% of voters voted for non-SF candidates, so your assumption is subjective.

With SF it all gets back to the core issue of credibility – and they still have a mountain to climb. The 'up the RA' outburst might have grabbed the headlines but anybody who thinks that the detritus of the Provos has disappeared is delusional. They're still around, still an influence and still as obnoxious and repulsive to the vast majority as they always were.

Scratch the surface of most Shinners and they bleed a lighter shade of Provo green. They're not ready for government yet and that's leaving aside their Alice in Wonderland economics.
 

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76% of voters voted for non-SF candidates, so your assumption is subjective.

With SF it all gets back to the core issue of credibility – and they still have a mountain to climb. The 'up the RA' outburst might have grabbed the headlines but anybody who thinks that the detritus of the Provos has disappeared is delusional. They're still around, still an influence and still as obnoxious and repulsive to the vast majority as they always were.

Scratch the surface of most Shinners and they bleed a lighter shade of Provo green. They're not ready for government yet and that's leaving aside their Alice in Wonderland economics.
Well this is a convenient narrative for FFG. Go ahead put your “radical” government together. LOL
 

Baron von Biffo

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Is Sidey ok, havent seen him post in a long time and his absence at present is notable.
He received an anonymous tip off that he'd sworn an oath of allegiance to the Queen to get his NZ citizenship. So shocked was he to discover that he's now a hysterical loyalist, swivel eyed, window licking, toxic loon that he had to split with himself.

Now he watches himself like a hawk and at the first hint that he's about to post a West Brit screed he turns off his computer and sings himself to sleep with alternating choruses of 'Come out ye black and tans' and 'God save the queen'.
 

Baron von Biffo

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It does but that's the honourable opposition, to give them their full title, and the fact that they still exist to the greater mirth of the many assembled is a source of some satisfaction in a heterogenous world.

Over in the other place the opposition benches seem to have taken the day off, or arn't allowed space which is a bit of a damper.

Suggest you go back there, if open and free ranging debate, even if that only usually involves 'whack a mole' (thanks for that one Malcolm Redfellow) isn't your thing.
Nail on head.
 

Baron von Biffo

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FF/FG will have nothing to do with SF,
so unless they come to some arrangement between themselves, there will have to be another GE - the last thing that FF/EG wants,
so it's going to be a FF/FG arrangement.
FF made a grave tactical error in my opinion by ruling out talks with SF yesterday.

Had they begun talks but rejected SF proposals such as the unconstitutional rent freeze and dismantling the tax base then they'd have the high ground in the next GE when the talks failed.

The more SF members banged on about 'we won the election' and Mary Lou must be Taoiseach', the more FF would be able to depict them as arrogant.

By excluding SF they've painted themselves into a corner. Now all that's on the table is FF/FG or a new GE.

I genuinely can't see FF/FG coming about so I think we're heading for a GE. And it's a GE that as of now will be pretty much a re-run of last Saturday.
 

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FFG/GP looking likely as it hits all the establishment's needs:

1 - crony capitalism still reigns
2 - we can VS about paying more taxes for, eh, climate change while producing 0.01% of the planets carbon emissions
3 - MM gets to be Taoiseach
4 - LV gets a nice job in Europe befitting a failed Irish politician
 


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