Irish government squandering taxpayer money on Palestinians.

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Reading this story made me extremely annoyed. Last year we spend 2.5 million Euro on educating Palestinians, in total we spent over 15 million Euro in donations to Palestine, despite Palestine's President being 9 years over the term he was elected for, it should be noted that the Presidency is not a democratically elected position and this man is an extremely wealthy man. It is wrong for Ireland to get involved in the domestic affairs of other countries, it's obscene that at a time when we have a massive homeless crisis, a shortage of hospital beds, nursing home places, not enough doctors and nurses and oversubscribed schools, that this government continues to give away taxpayer money.

Almost 1 billion went on Foreign Aid last year, at the beginning of the year 66 million was set aside for Direct Provision, Christ only knows what that figure is at now since so many new Direct Provision centres have been added. We have to ask ourselves as a nation, is it time for an election to put an end to this? We have students from poor backgrounds who can't afford to attend university but instead of helping them Coveney announced 20 full scholarships for Palestinians to come here at taxpayer expense. The madness has to end.

Coveney announces launch of Ireland-Palestine scholarship programme
 


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Ah, it's pretty much institutionalised here by now.

And we're not alone, it pretty much became institutionalised in the EU after Ireland held the presidency of the European Union for the second half of 1996.

Of course we know that during this time, Arafat siphoned large amounts of European aid money away to pay for terror. And it has continued to this day.

Documents revealed in 2002 (and subsequently) demonstrated that the Palestinian Authority spent approximately $9 million of European Union aid money each month on the salaries of those organizing terror attacks against civilians.

They also regularly converted millions of dollars of aid money into shekels at rates about 20 percent below normal, allowing the Palestinian leadership to divert millions of dollars worth of aid into their personal slush funds.

But sure, it's all for the innocent, oppressed Palestinians under the always evil Israeli ogres and monsters isn't it? - Who are you to question the common wisdom now?
 

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Thank god we're not building them a hospital.
 

Buchaill Dana

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Good. The overwhelming majority would have sympathy for the opressed Palestinians and the state reflect this. There are lots of other spends that need to be looked at ahead of this.
 

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Good. The overwhelming majority would have sympathy for the opressed Palestinians and the state reflect this. There are lots of other spends that need to be looked at ahead of this.
You mean virtue signalling Israel haters? Education in the Palestinian territories amounts to anti-semitic indoctrination and pie-in-the-sky guff about the right of return which will never happen. One good result of the Donald being in the Oval Office is the de-funding of the giant scam that is UNWRA.
 

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We should be wasting the money at home....which we do really well....IW, over budget Children's Hospitals, Tribunals that don't act on findings...etc...
 

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You mean virtue signalling Israel haters? Education in the Palestinian territories amounts to anti-semitic indoctrination and pie-in-the-sky guff about the right of return which will never happen. One good result of the Donald being in the Oval Office is the de-funding of the giant scam that is UNWRA.
No, I mean the majority of Irish people. If it has the added bonus of annoying the racists and alt right types, thats fine with me too
 

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Just on neo-liberal bias, no doubt that it is a factor in this.

But whereas in other countries, at least the issue is raised, there is debate about it - whereas in Oireland you would never, ever hear a voice raised in dissent at the institutionalised consensus (well apart from the much maligned and demonised Alan Shatter.)

E.g. Watch: Opposition grills Canadian PM on Hamas/UNRWA links
 

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You never hear a dissenting voice, other than the dissenting voices.

And to think you get paid for this...
 

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Good. The overwhelming majority would have sympathy for the opressed Palestinians and the state reflect this. There are lots of other spends that need to be looked at ahead of this.
You'd need to be careful throwing terms like that around. Bigots in Ireland are usually the noisiest and it's by no means certain that while the Irish would like to help the Palestinians they think it's ok to pay a pension to someone who stabs a 19 year old girl to death.
 

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You'd need to be careful throwing terms like that around. Bigots in Ireland are usually the noisiest and it's by no means certain that while the Irish would like to help the Palestinians they think it's ok to pay a pension to someone who stabs a 19 year old girl to death.
Thats an impressive strawman. Kudos.
 

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You'd need to be careful throwing terms like that around. Bigots in Ireland are usually the noisiest and it's by no means certain that while the Irish would like to help the Palestinians they think it's ok to pay a pension to someone who stabs a 19 year old girl to death.
Agreed. I'd think the "overwhelming majority" in Ireland wouldn't view Israel vs. Palestine as such a simplistic "four legs good, two legs bad" situation. In my experience, many people will condemn specific actions, but it's too much of a sh*tshow to unconditionally support one side against the other. People will hedge.

Politician and activists don't necessary express the actual views of the majority of people.
 

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If you were not such a virtue signalling eejit you'd know the Alt-right is rabidly anti-Semitic so would be pleased with this development. Maybe educate youyrself so don't come across as such pc intellectual spastic.
Great description of BD but sadly Ireland is awash with these virtue signally fools including most of the idiots in parliament. One has to laugh at the pro palistinian posturing and condemnation of Israel and at the same time they wet themselves when Intel a company with strong links to the much maligned state announces a massive injection into the economy.
 

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It's not a strawman, you fool, that is exactly what we are talking about. It is demonstrated, admitted even, by the PA.
Are we really?

The thread hasnt gone how the Colonel planned so now we are going back on track?

Surreally clumsy propaganda.
 

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You never hear a dissenting voice, other than the dissenting voices.

And to think you get paid for this...
Shatter is no longer in government. He's not even a politician anymore is he, since he left the Dail in Feb 2016. But even when he was, he was a lone voice. And he was a regular target of abuse as a minister and TD.

One example I'll never forget is how in 2015 when he spoke on how Ireland had shut its doors to German Jews trying to escape the death camps, he was showered with insults, told he "should go back to where he came from" on radio shows (they meant Israel), and sent vile things in the post.

And whenever he says anything about Israel he is basically treated the same way. - Unfortunately these days we have no Michael Davitts or John Redmonds in the Dail (the only two who ever really stood up and spoke out against Irish antisemitism, against the consensus, in the past).
 

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Reading this story made me extremely annoyed. Last year we spend 2.5 million Euro on educating Palestinians, in total we spent over 15 million Euro in donations to Palestine, despite Palestine's President being 9 years over the term he was elected for, it should be noted that the Presidency is not a democratically elected position and this man is an extremely wealthy man. It is wrong for Ireland to get involved in the domestic affairs of other countries, it's obscene that at a time when we have a massive homeless crisis, a shortage of hospital beds, nursing home places, not enough doctors and nurses and oversubscribed schools, that this government continues to give away taxpayer money.

Almost 1 billion went on Foreign Aid last year, at the beginning of the year 66 million was set aside for Direct Provision, Christ only knows what that figure is at now since so many new Direct Provision centres have been added. We have to ask ourselves as a nation, is it time for an election to put an end to this? We have students from poor backgrounds who can't afford to attend university but instead of helping them Coveney announced 20 full scholarships for Palestinians to come here at taxpayer expense. The madness has to end.

Coveney announces launch of Ireland-Palestine scholarship programme
As an Irish taxpayer I am glad that the Govt is spending money on Palestinian Christians. Well done Irish govt.
 

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Are we really?

The thread hasnt gone how the Colonel planned so now we are going back on track?

Surreally clumsy propaganda.
You've obviously got some sort of lobotomy. Get out of my face, I'm tired of half-witted ideologues like you talking discriminatory, ill-judged, glib rubbish.
 

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So columists like Harris, O'Doherty, Myers etc are to be ignored so you can create a false narrative of anti semitism?

You are conflating losing a debate with not having one. Which is more of the dishonesty that lost you the debate in the first place
 

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Great description of BD but sadly Ireland is awash with these virtue signally fools including most of the idiots in parliament. One has to laugh at the pro palistinian posturing and condemnation of Israel and at the same time they wet themselves when Intel a company with strong links to the much maligned state announces a massive injection into the economy.
Israel is a competitor state of IDA Ireland. They want our foreign direct investment. Ask the IDA. Support for Israel is support for our competitors.
 


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