There is an element of that in both Fianna Fail and the Greens, although I think the Greens are more united than some would think. There is just a loud fringe there that makes people think otherwise.The problem might be that there's little trust or loyalty inside some of the parties rather than between the parties.
The fact that it was a secret ballot makes it easier for TDs to vote against the government.No secret ballot like for the ceann comhairle. I mean if the government can't get the votes for the leas CC which would be seen a relatively easy one to get through then what does that say for more critical votes down the line ?
First sign of a challenge to MM?The fact that it was a secret ballot makes it easier for TDs to vote against the government.
Also the fact that it was such a trivial matter (no offence to Fergus O'Dowd) makes TDs happier to create mischief over it, as opposed to something more important.
Pity it wasn't a SF candidate against O'Dowd. O'Dowd would have easily won then.This is FF and FGs first "g'way ta fuk" moment to Jack Chambers, the Govt whip
I predict it won't be the last
Yes he is one of them.Not sure about that salary increase....but many not happy.
Would not have happened in Francis Urquhart's watch.This article is quite interesting.
Ms Connolly beat the agreed government candidate Fine Gael's Fergus O'Dowd in a further embarrassment to the Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael and Green Party ...www.irishexaminer.com
Apparently there was a WTF exclamation from some FGer when the result was announced.
Ooohhh, you used not to be so catty Rocky..Pity it wasn't a SF candidate against O'Dowd. O'Dowd would have easily won then.
Although that might have distracted SF from being the bestest opposition party ever i.e. being regularly overshadowed by Alan O'Kelly while only having four TDs (three mainly but Louise O'Reilly does get the odd run out to be fair) that they will let go anywhere near the media.
My point is that this was a little gravy going to O'Dowd as part of the spoils divide between FF & FG, we heard of the squealing from the FFers who were overlooked by MM, now there's another FGer with an axe to grind - you can almost hear Ring egging him on.All right point taken.
More than one source, e.g. both RTE and Examiner, referring to this as a secret ballot too. In that case, a bit less surprising.No secret ballot like for the ceann comhairle. I mean if the government can't get the votes for the leas CC which would be seen a relatively easy one to get through then what does that say for more critical votes down the line ?
Went down like a shite sandwich in the FAI too. How is he independent?Not sure about that salary increase....but many not happy.