Irish Govt 2020 Agreed: Welcome to our new coalition overlords

Round tower

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No hope of the elite and overpaid TD's doing this.

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It was brought up at the lauch today whem McGrath of FF was asked about 3 years ago when their was 3 super junior ministers and FG O'Connor did not receive the €16,000. McGrath claimed that it never came before the house and oes not remember it. At the time FF's Thomas Byrne said that if it came to the house that they would vote against it the matter was dropped.
If their is 3 super junior ministers they should be all treated the same, how it's done is the question, probably with the way the country is in it would probably have being better give them all €11,000 piece.
SF as usual was complaining about it, probably because it's not one of their TD's is not a SJM istead od Naughton.
 


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It was brought up at the lauch today whem McGrath of FF was asked about 3 years ago when their was 3 super junior ministers and FG O'Connor did not receive the €16,000. McGrath claimed that it never came before the house and oes not remember it. At the time FF's Thomas Byrne said that if it came to the house that they would vote against it the matter was dropped.
If their is 3 super junior ministers they should be all treated the same, how it's done is the question, probably with the way the country is in it would probably have being better give them all €11,000 piece.
SF as usual was complaining about it, probably because it's not one of their TD's is not a SJM istead od Naughton.
Many funny elements to that in fairness....and also sinister and devious ones.
I presume you meant deducting them 11k and also NOT giving the them the obscene pay rise.
Sinn Fein,and others were and are holding them to account...some in FF also......a bit of sour milk drank on your last sentence, which was very silly if you had really thought about it.
 

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It was brought up at the lauch today whem McGrath of FF was asked about 3 years ago when their was 3 super junior ministers and FG O'Connor did not receive the €16,000. McGrath claimed that it never came before the house and oes not remember it. At the time FF's Thomas Byrne said that if it came to the house that they would vote against it the matter was dropped.
If their is 3 super junior ministers they should be all treated the same, how it's done is the question, probably with the way the country is in it would probably have being better give them all €11,000 piece.
SF as usual was complaining about it, probably because it's not one of their TD's is not a SJM istead od Naughton.
As usual the SF bit is a red herring. Rather than mudding the waters let's start at the start. Why do we need these 3 super juniors. Not one, not two but three. Where's the business case? Where's the justification? You know the type of rigour and governance that you'd expect. There was no justification 3 years ago for one and there certainly isn't any justification now for 3.
 

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Life comes at you fast.

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As usual the SF bit is a red herring. Rather than mudding the waters let's start at the start. Why do we need these 3 super juniors. Not one, not two but three. Where's the business case? Where's the justification? You know the type of rigour and governance that you'd expect. There was no justification 3 years ago for one and there certainly isn't any justification now for 3.

Super junior ministers did not start 3 years ago, that started back 26 years ago when their used be 2 SJM, 3 years ago it became 3 that when the question arosed.
 

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Many funny elements to that in fairness....and also sinister and devious ones.
I presume you meant deducting them 11k and also NOT giving the them the obscene pay rise.
Sinn Fein,and others were and are holding them to account...some in FF also......a bit of sour milk drank on your last sentence, which was very silly if you had really thought about it.
No the legisslation was there where 2 SJM got an extra 16,000 whicch adds up to 32,000 so divide it by 3 or eound it up to 11,000 each extra.
 

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No the legisslation was there where 2 SJM got an extra 16,000 whicch adds up to 32,000 so divide it by 3 or eound it up to 11,000 each extra.
Yep...it was that all along.
 

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Big Fianna Fail PP meeting tonight....with some of their TD's whinging that they are being badly damaged on social media by Sinn Fein.

Those idiots still don't get why they had a disastrous election...and have plummeted in the polls.
With all the advisors they have, surely one of them will speak up and tell them it's self inflicted.
I hope that lunatic Eoghan Harris still has the ear of MM....at this rate they will have less points than Barry Cowen.
 

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Nothing has made Varadkar look better as leader of the country than the last 2 weeks of this shambles. This 10 seconds sums up everything about this coalition. Ineptitude in the simplest of tasks, flirting with utter disaster where only luck keeps everyone alive, Eamon Ryan standing on the side with his hands on his groin doing nothing.
 

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Nothing has made Varadkar look better as leader of the country than the last 2 weeks of this shambles. This 10 seconds sums up everything about this coalition. Ineptitude in the simplest of tasks, flirting with utter disaster where only luck keeps everyone alive, Eamon Ryan standing on the side with his hands on his groin doing nothing.
Why should Varadkar get a free pass on this one, FG are as responsible for this government as much as FF and the Greens. FG effectively let them in to the sitting room to take a dump on the rug, FG should get to clean it up and perhaps talk to Newton Emerson about some house-training for their partners.
 

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Well they lost. They didn't try to lose. I think FG will just try and sabotage things now to get another election. There are no speaker "Accidents".
 

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Nothing has made Varadkar look better as leader of the country than the last 2 weeks of this shambles. This 10 seconds sums up everything about this coalition. Ineptitude in the simplest of tasks, flirting with utter disaster where only luck keeps everyone alive, Eamon Ryan standing on the side with his hands on his groin doing nothing.
How come it missed Chu?
 

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Going backwards,with no clue....The coalition of chaos are always good for a laugh.
The Fianna Fail new book to the housing crisis was laughed out of the room, as their new housing minister tried to pass off a copycat version of Sinn Fein's Eoin Ó Broin's best selling book 'Home'

'The one and a half page proposal from Fianna Fail's Darragh O' Brien was rejected as lacking depth'

 

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Going backwards,with no clue....The coalition of chaos are always good for a laugh.
The Fianna Fail new book to the housing crisis was laughed out of the room, as their new housing minister tried to pass off a copycat version of Sinn Fein's Eoin Ó Broin's best selling book 'Home'
Technically, it seems that O'Brien's book wasn't even written. It was a just a proposal that was rejected. The publisher wasn't even named.
 

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O'Broin's pitch for his published book
The answer, as argued in this transformative new book, lies in establishing a Constitutional right to housing, large scale investment in a new model of public housing to meet social and affordable housing need, real reform of the private rental sector and regulation of private finance, development and land.
I mean....they seem totally opposing approaches on the same topic. I don't think the SF book is the reason to reject the proposal. The terrible topic and lazy 1 page Proposal would more likely be the reason.

Home Truths: What happened to home ownership, why it matters and how we can keep it alive for the next generation.'
Catchy.
 

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I mean....they seem totally opposing approaches on the same topic. I don't think the SF book is the reason to reject the proposal. The terrible topic and lazy 1 page Proposal would more likely be the reason.
Good publishers tend to have an instinct for what sells. O'Broin's book took a major part of the market for that kind of book and another book, even it was well written, might not have the same potential.

The market for O'Broin's book would have a lot of people who are renting or trying to purchase their first home. The market for O'Brien's book would have been older. With Covid, there's has been a shift in publishing away from print towards electronic publishing. His book is available on Amazon Kindle. O'Broin's would do a lot of a the heavy lifting as regards marketing and he's been published previously. O'Brien hasn't so it is always a gamble for publishers with first time authors.
 

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Must admit that when I read that O'Broin's book was considered a best seller that I wondered how many books are actually sold. I bought one of McWilliams' books once and I'd never someone else's opinion again.
 


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