Irish law case against brexit

McTell

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You couldn't make it up, unless you were Jolyon Maugham QC. He will bring a case here on behalf of 6 syrians who are to be sent back to turkey from Greece. Or it might be for a group of UK MPs. None of them live in Ireland. Keep up, you guys at the back!

He's hoping that it will get from our high court to the ECJ by march, and the ECJ will rule so as to sink Brexit.

Lawyer taking Brexit escape route case in Irish courts confident of success

Funds sought for Brexit court case in Ireland - BBC News


Jolyon Maugham, a London tax lawyer, is taking legal action to seek a ruling from the European Court of Justice on whether Britain can unilaterally revoke Article 50 without the consent the other 27 EU states.


Whataboutery corner - what about the legals - the bills? Just in case he loses? It's being crowdfunded, so the irish taxpayer won't have to pay a cent. Could we have that in writing please?


Gals n guys, I was against brexit, but as with the american colonists in 1776, or our own history in 1922, when a majority want to leave, you let them leave, with the minimum of costs all round, because you will be buying or selling something from/to them next year.

Despite the weak pound, UK tourists continue to flock to Ireland

.. trips to Ireland made by UK residents increased by almost 9.5% from July to September [2016] compared to the same three-month period last year. In the three months after the Brexit vote, UK tourists took over 1.1 million trips to Ireland.
Visitors from Britain account for more than 40% of all overseas visitors to the island – more than all other European countries combined ...
 


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What he is doing is providing a definite justification for the British people to proceed with Brexit.
 

Dame_Enda

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My understanding of the Treaties is that once Article 50 is invoked, it can't be revoked. However at the same time it is clear that the Treaties allow the member states to extend the deadline beyond two years for completion of the exit process.

The European Parliament would have a veto on the terms of exit - but as far as I can tell could not veto the exit itsef. (The EP has a veto on treaties between the EU and third countries).
 

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This is an issue which needs to be clarified. Doing it early is best.

If A50 can be unilaterally revoked by the UK, then the 2 year negotiation deadline is meaningless.
 

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"Jolyon has a predominantly litigation based practice in the fields of direct and indirect tax. He has particular expertise in avoidance, structured finance, intangible property, tax and judicial review, and employment taxation."


He is however interested in expanding his specialisation into European law, the law of international treaty, and seeks to gain exposure to the Irish legal circuit. Donations to Joylon's principled stand to broaden his practice can donate as they see fit.

There are so many upstanding people taking moral positions these days and they all seem to have an angle to do better from it. Good for them. Brexit scares me but should I respect Joylons self promotion.

Thats your business Joylon, literally.

Mick

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If he's wrong he'll lose, if he's right he'll win.

What's the problem?
If he loses no problem.

If he wins it's all a conspiracy by the big bad EU and vested interests blah blah blah...

Some people only accept stuff when it goes their way.

Would Nigel Farage have gone quietly if Brexit had been lost?

Would he f***... which he declared in the middle of the night of the vote when he thought he'd lost... 'the fight will go on' blah blah blah

If Nigel doesn't regret that verbal premature ejaculation he probably should.

It's a stick all those who are against Brexit should whack him with relentlessly at every opportunity.
 

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If he loses no problem.

If he wins it's all a conspiracy by the big bad EU and vested interests blah blah blah...

Some people only accept stuff when it goes their way.

Would Nigel Farage have gone quietly if Brexit had been lost?

Would he f***... which he declared in the middle of the night of the vote when he thought he'd lost... 'the fight will go on' blah blah blah

If Nigel doesn't regret that verbal premature ejaculation he probably should.

It's a stick all those who are against Brexit should whack him with relentlessly at every opportunity.
Its bigger than that. If A50 can be revoked it removes the 2 year deadline and the rest of the EU will be very non-committal in negotiations because the UK can always just drag out to get more. Brexit will take years. If A50 can't be revoked, that confirms power on the EU side.
 

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On the costs front: I see the Ir Times article I downloaded last night has been edited.

It had this para:

"The Government is being asked to consent to a protective costs order, which would shield the plaintiffs from the legal costs of the State should they lose".


That means we pay whatever. Might help if the QC made clear that he wouldn't be charging. Maybe the IT were wrong about this. Or maybe it stuck too much in the craw, and given that the IT has been anti-brexit, it had to go.

This should be clarified before this bird takes off.

For centuries we complained that Britain ignored our majority views. Now we're being asked to pay to help get around their majority view.

I happen not to like brexit, but going to such lengths to ignore their vote is overall too negative, and not positive.
 


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