Irish Mirror Exclusive - Izevbekhai FGM story a lie

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Irish Independent - Izevbekhai FGM story a lie

Newstalk is reporting just now that the Irish Independent and the Mirror have an explosive story on the case of Nigerian asylum-seeker Pamela Izevbekhai's claims that her child died of FGM. According to the report, her doctor is now admitting that the story was invented and the child did not exist. If this is indeed true (and why would the doctor lie), then once and for all it demonstrates the ludicrity of the way in which the Leinster House liberals have been flocking to her cause like ducks to water in the name of a pack of lies. That someone would invent such a lie, being as the subject-matter is so traumatic and distressing, aswell as harming the cause of those who are genuinely threatened and victimised by FGM, is in itself an affront to the morality of all right-thinking people. And if true, it strengthens further the necessity for this woman to be deported. She has had her claims assessed by the authorities and the politicians have now had themselves made fools of by the revelations in today's Irish Mirror. Shame.

The Irish Independent security correspondant is on Newstalk elaborating on this now.
 
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Newstalk is reporting just now that the Irish Mirror has an exclusive on the case of Nigerian asylum-seeker Pamela Izevbekhai 's claims that her child died of FGM. According to the report, her doctor is now admitting that the story was invented and the child did not exist. If this is indeed true (and why would the doctor lie), then once and for all it demonstrates the ludicrity of the way in which the Leinster House liberals have been flocking to her cause like ducks to water in the name of a pack of lies. That someone would invent such a lie, being as the subject-matter is so traumatic and distressing, aswell as harming the cause of those who are genuinely threatened and victimised by FGM, is in itself an affront to the morality of all right-thinking people. And if true, it strengthens further the necessity for this woman to be deported. She has had her claims assessed by the authorities and the politicians have now had themselves made fools of by the revelations in today's Irish Mirror. Shame.

The Irish Independent security correspondant is on Newstalk elaborating on this now.
If the story is untrue ( or swimming in a sea of 'ludicrity') why would she lie? Then again she may be telling the truth. The 'Irish Mirror'? Have you any self respect?
 

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That someone would invent such a lie, being as the subject-matter is so traumatic and distressing, aswell as harming the cause of those who are genuinely threatened and victimised by FGM, is in itself an affront to the morality of all right-thinking people.
So do you agree that people genuinely threatened by FGM should be granted asylum?
 

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Turns out the death-cert was a forgery, and that PI herself allegedly asked for it to be forged for the specific reason of claiming asylum in Ireland. From today's Independent:

Irish Independent said:
Deportation case mother had fake baby death papers, inquiry told

Friday March 27 2009

A NIGERIAN woman who is facing deportation used forged documentation to back up claims that her first child died after being subjected to female genital mutilation, a garda investigation has been told.
Inquiries by the garda national immigration unit in Nigeria have uncovered apparent discrepancies in the case presented by Pamela Izevbekhai to the High Court and Supreme Court in Dublin and to the European Court of Human Rights.
A Nigerian obstetrician has dismissed a document, allegedly signed by him, as a forgery. He also rejected Mrs Izevbekhai's claim that she gave birth to a daughter, Elizabeth, in February 1993 and that the girl died on July 16, 1994, following female genital mutilation.
The findings represent a potentially serious blow to the prospects of Mrs Izevbekhai overturning a Supreme Court decision supporting her deportation in her appeal to the European Court of Human Rights.
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In an affidavit lodged with the European Court in Strasbourg, consultant obstetrician and gynaecologist Dr Joseph Unokanjo, who practises at Isioma Hospital, in Lagos, says he can confirm that no baby called Elizabeth Izevbekhai was delivered by him at the hospital and no baby of that name has ever been treated by him for any ailment, including post-circumcision complications. Gar- dai were also told there is no evidence of Elizabeth's death at the registry of deaths in Lagos, although a death certificate was presented to the Irish courts on behalf of Mrs Izevbekhai.
Dr Unokanjo says he did not sign an affidavit purported to have been sworn by him on March 9, 2006, and did not issue a certificate of cause of death, which purported to come from Isioma hospital on July 17, 1994. Confirming the signatures are not his, he also says he is incorrectly described on that affidavit as a surgeon, and that the hospital stamp and hospital address are false. He emphasises the purported affidavit was not made by him and says he believes it is a forgery.
Dr Unokanjo has practised at Isioma hospital since 1992, when it was founded, and is a medical director there.
He says Pamela Izevbekhai was his patient before she married and at the time was known as Enitan West, and after her marriage as Enitan Izevbekhai.
Dr Unokanjo also says Mrs Izevbekhai had her first baby at Isioma Hospital in 2000. He was her attending doctor and he could confirm that it was her first child.
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He recalled that Pamela Enitan Izevbekhai telephoned him some years ago requesting him to issue a death certificate in respect of a dead child to enable her to be given asylum in the Republic of Ireland. He told her he did not involve himself in such activities, particularly since he was aware that she neither had a baby before 1999, and nor had she lost a baby.
Dr Unokanjo also states the alleged medical certificate of the 'cause of death' is a forgery.
Paul McHenry, third secretary at the Irish Embassy in Abuja, Nigeria, describes how he had been shown that the registry of deaths in the Surulere district in Lagos for 1994 showed only 55 entries but the certificate produced for Elizabeth Izevbekhai was entered as number 56.
If the story is untrue ( or swimming in a sea of 'ludicrity') why would she lie? Then again she may be telling the truth. The 'Irish Mirror'? Have you any self respect?
She would lie so she can stay in Ireland of course. Doh. :roll:

The Irish Independent security correspondant was just on Newstalk now stating that the Gardai have investigated her story in Nigeria and have found it to be untrue.

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So do you agree that people genuinely threatened by FGM should be granted asylum?
They should be allowed to claim asylum in the first safe country, which is unlikely to be Ireland.

I wonder how Veronica Cawley must feel now reading this story. She and the Labour party and those in FG who supported her case now have egg all over their faces. This is where gullibility gets you.
 
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If the story is untrue ( or swimming in a sea of 'ludicrity') why would she lie? Then again she may be telling the truth. The 'Irish Mirror'? Have you any self respect?


Shooting the messenger is always a handy option when faced with compelling evidence.
 

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The support shown by political figures on all sides of Leinster House for this woman's case is now untenable.
 

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This is going to cause a lot of problems for the Mass Immigrationists and a lot of 'I told you so' recriminations from those in favour of controlled immigration. I hope the mods are paying close attention to this thread because it is going to become a bit of a flashpoint over the next few hours.

Regards...jmcc
 
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The damage done by this case will undermine all asylum applications. Why should we believe anyone now?
 

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If such a high profile case has been dragged on so far and "investigated" what about all the other cases before this. Is there any way previous cases can be looked into.
How much does each approved asylum seeker cost ? Remember the world is full of people that deserve to be looked after.
We have been so easily duped in the past but by how much.
 

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Turns out the death-cert was a forgery, and that PI herself allegedly asked for it to be forged for the specific reason of claiming asylum in Ireland. From today's Independent:



She would lie so she can stay in Ireland of course. Doh. :roll:

The Irish Independent security correspondant was just on Newstalk now stating that the Gardai have investigated her story in Nigeria and have found it to be untrue.

They should be allowed to claim asylum in the first safe country, which is unlikely to be Ireland.

I wonder how Veronica Cawley must feel now reading this story. She and the Labour party and those in FG who supported her case now have egg all over their faces. This is where gullibility gets you.
We rarely agree, FT, but we agree on this. Our government does not respect the Dublin Convention which requires all asylum-seekers apply for asylum in the first signatory state in which they land. As you correctly state, this is unlikely to be Ireland. Yet we have a siutuation where a great many asylum seekers claim asylum in Ireland having arrived in a different signatory state beforehand.

If our government does not enforce the law, it sends out a coded message to all and sundry that Ireland is a soft touch because it doesn't even enforce its own laws. This encourages all manner of scammers, chancers and criminals to try it on here making the entire process more difficult for genuine applicants and creating the conditions for the native population to label ALL claimants as scammers.

Apart from generating a reputation for incompetence in applying its own asylum laws, it fosters an impression that genuine asylum-seekers cannot rely on Ireland as a safe haven because the government is so inept that is has allowed chaos to reign in the asylum process, at the heart of which is an inability to enforce the law.
 

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Whatever the truth may be, I gotta say that the children involved have my sympathy. I hope for their sake that they haven't gone through this whole drama on the back of a pack of lies.
 

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because they are all - each and every one of them - liars! Here for the soft welfare money from poor auld gullible paddy!!!!
Ridiculous post. Get a life!
 
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