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Irish State Funerals - a little rough-and-ready?


iolar

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There ceremonial funeral last week in London for Baroness Thatcher really was a fitting final spectacle for one of the UK's most iconic prime ministers.

I did occur to me though that the level of planning, attention to detail and finesse applied to the funeral was impressive to say the least. I could not help reflect on some of the most recent state funerals in the Republic of Ireland though and I was unfortunately drawn to compare them. There can be no doubt that our state funerals do not measure up in any way to those of our nearest neighbours. Granted, we are a much smaller country with less resources and less of a tradition in pomp and ceremony however I did feel that our state funerals are not as dignified, refined, sophisticated, as I believe they might be.

I am a great admirer of the Defence Forces and I applaud them for their work in all our occasions of state, and I do not believe the issues solely lies with them.

Any opinions?

PS. please don't make this a thread on the politics of Margaret Thatcher.
 

johnfás

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The Irish army motorcycle outriders always look ridiculous. As a country with an equine heritage we should use it more.
 
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Dylan2010

meh, North Korea do great parades, take it as a badge of honour that "we" dont try to ape them
 

Boy M5

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The Defence forces did a great show on Easter Sunday.
I'm more concerned about the Defence Forces having the right resources, than their ability to turn out in number to honour a dead politician.
 

iolar

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Could not agree more. The army and Garda have such beautiful and well trained horses; and we have a long and passionate equine tradition. I cannot understand why we don't see them more often in a ceremonial capacity.

In terms of the motorcycle escorts; I do think they look a little 'cheesey' but I'm sure they will have a function.
 

rapparree

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dont see how it is a problem since there is literally no one alive that deserves an Irish state funeral
 

Tawdy

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There ceremonial funeral last week in London for Baroness Thatcher really was a fitting final spectacle for one of the UK's most iconic prime ministers.

I did occur to me though that the level of planning, attention to detail and finesse applied to the funeral was impressive to say the least. I could not help reflect on some of the most recent state funerals in the Republic of Ireland though and I was unfortunately drawn to compare them. There can be no doubt that our state funerals do not measure up in any way to those of our nearest neighbours. Granted, we are a much smaller country with less resources and less of a tradition in pomp and ceremony however I did feel that our state funerals are not as dignified, refined, sophisticated, as I believe they might be.

I am a great admirer of the Defence Forces and I applaud them for their work in all our occasions of state, and I do not believe the issues solely lies with them.

Any opinions?

PS. please don't make this a thread on the politics of Margaret Thatcher
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.....................also know as wanting to eat your cake and have it! :roll:
 

rapparree

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TK Whitaker?

As far as i am concerned, his 'eminent' status is simply of an indicator of the massive mediocrity in which this country has been mired since the get go, that a civil servant who acted on common sense is seen in such a fashion

the bar was/is very low
 

FakeViking

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Agreed, don't think we should give funerals to anyone alive.
Why should that stop us. I could nominate a few ex-office holders for the job, it would be a tradeoff in terms of cost vs. their enormous pensions.
 

Eoin Coir

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Haughey's state funeral was great, and Bertie's ovation describing him as a patriot to his fingertips really captured the day.
 

Tin Foil Hat

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There ceremonial funeral last week in London for Baroness Thatcher really was a fitting final spectacle for one of the UK's most iconic prime ministers.

I did occur to me though that the level of planning, attention to detail and finesse applied to the funeral was impressive to say the least. I could not help reflect on some of the most recent state funerals in the Republic of Ireland though and I was unfortunately drawn to compare them. There can be no doubt that our state funerals do not measure up in any way to those of our nearest neighbours. Granted, we are a much smaller country with less resources and less of a tradition in pomp and ceremony however I did feel that our state funerals are not as dignified, refined, sophisticated, as I believe they might be.

I am a great admirer of the Defence Forces and I applaud them for their work in all our occasions of state, and I do not believe the issues solely lies with them.

Any opinions?

PS. please don't make this a thread on the politics of Margaret Thatcher.
Cheap and cheerful suits me fine. Mickey swinging contests are wasteful and childish.
 

rapparree

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also being pedantic, thatchers wasnt technically a state funeral, it had all the trappings of one and was treated as such by the papers, but it wasn't a formal state funeral
 

Heligoland

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I know it's a somewhat maudlin thought, but I believe plans are already in place for Bertie Ahern's funeral.


























 

darkknight

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Éamonn De Valera's funeral in 1975 was dignified and well-conducted:

[video=youtube;KJ4NAviFfAA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ4NAviFfAA[/video]


As was that of Michael Collins in 1922:

[video=youtube;T6QX2paFZxc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6QX2paFZxc[/video]
 
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