Irish Times asylum story in today's paper

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An article in today's Irish Times tells the story of a Zimbabwean asylum seeker to Ireland.
To summarise, his father was in the presidential guard but deserted them in 2002.
The mother and father and it appears two siblings fled for England years ago, so bad they left Matanire behind.

Now when Matanire turned 18 he applied for a university place in South Africa. Upon studying there he tells of a situation to cause him to apply for asylum in Ireland. Highlighted and underlined below.

Is that really a sufficient reason to apply for asylum in europe and also considering he was in South Africa now?
I can see why his case was denied but the Irish Times have the viloins out in buckets and spades throughout the article.
https://t.co/yRWIvwAIUZ
His parents had already left Zimbabwe and were living in England when he decided to leave in 2014. He initially moved to South Africa, where he had applied to study IT at university. However, when he discovered one of his peers at the university was the son of a member of the police authorities in Harare, he began to investigate how to get to Europe.
Matanire’s initial application for refugee status was denied, so he is now waiting for a response to his appeal. “
 


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Scammer. But a relatively stupid one in not having a better story to tell.
 

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Scammer. But a relatively stupid one in not having a better story to tell.
Lad arrives in Ireland and tells immigration officer he wants to apply for asylum because in a nut shell he used to live in Zimbabwe but moved to college in South Africa and someone in his class has a father who is a member of the police in his home country.

Seems abit far fetched story alright.
 

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I believe SA is now deemed a safe country. He may as well have travelled from the U.S., I doubt his appeal will succeed.
 
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Response from a reader on the Irish Times website.

https://t.co/yRWIvwAIUZ
Look - this guy is not a refugee - his application has been rejected - its people like this which give the whole process the bad name it has. What was he fleeing from exactly ?? completely unclear and to be frank sounds totally bogus In fact sounds like I'd love to go and live somewhere else - don't they all ? so he is clearly an economic migrant abusing the refugee system by virtue his uncle and here we are at the IT with another bleeding heart piece.

These kind of stories merely highlight the clear abuse which is at the root of many peoples frustration.
The system is being clearly abused. Until that stops - until sense is restored there will be no open arms welcome here Because everyone in Ireland has no problem giving genuine refuge under the existing UN programme but we are sick of having our nations good will abused in this clear way and sick of the blind victim industrial complex of NGO's that blindly support and even endorse this kind of abuse As long as that continues there will be no genuine open arms welcomes for these abusers of the system 

Why should there be - they bring the whole system into disrepute Time to change and fast - this guy should have been put on the plane back to south Africa forthwith. If legally that can't happen then we Need geneva convention changes The convention is clearly being abused
 

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I am sympathetic to genuine refugees to a point but he under no definition could he be thought of a refugee or asylum seeker. In our legal system a judge can throw out a case if the evidence is insufficient to even start it so this should never have got this far. Have we ever accepted an asylum seeker from South Africa?

It was pitch dark outside the evening his flight touched down in Cork Airport. He declared himself to gardaí at the airport’s passport control and was taken to a direct provision centre near Kinsale, Co Cork. The following day he was given a bus ticket to Dublin and told to declare himself in the immigration office there.
What a joke :roll:

He should have finished his IT degree as I suspect it would have been relatively easy to get a work visa. With Irish visa the UK wiuld have been given him travel one easily enough.
 

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I believe SA is now deemed a safe country. He may well have travelled from the U.S., I doubt his appeal will succeed.
I'd not fancy having one of Mugabes lads after me in ZA....life is cheap there, only too many Zimbabweans who'd shoot you for a crust of bread without thinking twice about it.
 

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How would someone from Zimbabwe or South Africa go about applying to come to Ireland as an economic migrant rather than as an asylum seeker? Is it an option?
 

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Ian Smith had the place running brilliantly. Best country in Africa by a mile.

Pretty stupid to get rid of all the expertise out of a country and hope things go well. Even if Smith and the ruling class were racist scum they were good at running the place. They should have buried the hatchet and all got on with it together.

Zimbabwe: Govt Secretly Allowing White Farmers to Return, Official Reveals - allAfrica.com

White Rhodesian are great for work and progress. Some of the hardest working people I have ever come across. Plus they are always open to innovation. No wonder Canada/Auz/NZ/US/Belgium/Norway etc begged so many of them to go work their.
 

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It would seem that the Immigration Times will publish just about anything as long as it is linked to the colonisation of our country. Here is a sample from today's letters' page. Anybody paying 600 Euros a year for that rag to read cr-ap like this should really find something better to do with their hard earned.



Sir, – We support Enda O’Coineen’s call to allocate some Seanad seats to the Irish diaspora communities around the world (“Seanad election plays as a farce in three acts”, Opinion & Analysis, April 15th). But what about the “new Irish” immigrant communities here in Ireland? Should they not also have a voice in the way the country is governed?

There were 544,000 foreign-born people in Ireland out of a total population of around 4.5 million in the 2011 census – more than one in eight people. A significant number of those – it is difficult to find exact figures, but certainly well over 100,000 – are refugees, asylum seekers, undocumented and other vulnerable migrants. Should they not have a representative in our parliament?

A new taoiseach will have the gift of 11 nominees to the Seanad. At a time when the refugee crisis is Europe’s biggest headache, and we in Ireland are offering to take our share of people fleeing war and persecution in the Middle East and Africa, why should one of these nominations not go to an Irish citizen or legal resident who came here as a refugee, asylum seeker or other migrant? It would send out a strong message about this country’s compassionate and humanitarian values, and that we value the voices of these newcomers in our multicultural body politic.

We are members of City of Sanctuary Ireland, which brings together Irish people and migrants into a new network of groups in cities, towns and local communities and whose primary aim is to create a culture of welcome and safety for refugees, asylum seekers and other immigrants.

We urge whoever becomes taoiseach in the near future to consider seriously our proposal. – Yours, etc,

TIFFY ALLEN,

PHILIP BERMAN,

EAMON RYAN TD,

LASSANE OUEDRAOGO,

KEVIN MASCERANHAS,

ELLIE KISYOMBE,

TIAN YU LLOYD,

KEVIN KENNY,

ANDY POLLAK

SHIVONNE DUBARRY

PRINCESS KHUMALO

ALMUT SCHLEPPER,

BUHLEBENKOSI NAWENJA

MICHEL

L

E KEEFE

ANNET MPHAHLELE

JENNY MACDONALD

LATIFAT OLAGOKE

XINYUE QUE

CHRISTINE WANG

LYE UGUNSANYA

DAVID BÖCKMANN

RAZIEH NIKOOMANESH

IAN CALLAGY

MANDLENKOSI NKOMAZANA

HELEN KAVANAGH

RICHARD NTSHALINTSHALI

NAIMA CHAUDHRY

BREEGE KEENAN

DAUD ABDILAHI GILINGIL

ABDAZIZ MUSSA

RARES-MIHAI NICULA

FREDERIQUE RANTZ,

City of Sanctuary Ireland,

Dublin 13.
 

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An article in today's Irish Times tells the story of a Zimbabwean asylum seeker to Ireland.
To summarise, his father was in the presidential guard but deserted them in 2002.
The mother and father and it appears two siblings fled for England years ago, so bad they left Matanire behind.

Now when Matanire turned 18 he applied for a university place in South Africa. Upon studying there he tells of a situation to cause him to apply for asylum in Ireland. Highlighted and underlined below.

Is that really a sufficient reason to apply for asylum in europe and also considering he was in South Africa now?
I can see why his case was denied but the Irish Times have the viloins out in buckets and spades throughout the article.
https://t.co/yRWIvwAIUZ
Are the Irish Times Trolling their readership seeking to build support for Immigration control?
 

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SHIVONNE DUBARRY

PRINCESS KHUMALO

ALMUT SCHLEPPER,

BUHLEBENKOSI NAWENJA



ANNET MPHAHLELE



LATIFAT OLAGOKE

XINYUE QUE

CHRISTINE WANG

LYE UGUNSANYA

DAVID BÖCKMANN

RAZIEH NIKOOMANESH



MANDLENKOSI NKOMAZANA



RICHARD NTSHALINTSHALI

NAIMA CHAUDHRY



DAUD ABDILAHI GILINGIL

ABDAZIZ MUSSA

RARES-MIHAI NICULA

FREDERIQUE RANTZ,

How many were born in Ireland
 

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Any article about people who go back on holidays to the Countries they fled from persecution?
 
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Ludicrous.
 

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Any article Bout people who go back on holidays to the Countries they fled from persecution?
are ya jokin thats all hush hush .Its a complete sham whats going on in this country , if doesn't land its in the politicians backyard he won't give a flyin f .
 

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The sooner there is an abortion referendum the better.

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