• It has come to our attention that some users may have been "banned" when they tried to change their passwords after the site was hacked due to a glitch in the old vBulletin software. This would have occurred around the end of February and does not apply after the site was converted to Xenforo. If you believe you were affected by this, please contact a staff member or use the Contact us link at the bottom of any forum page.

Irish Times gets nip, tuck & Botox treatment


Houyhnhnm

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 25, 2011
Messages
1,089
The Irish Times gets a new look from tomorrow.

The newspaper, whose presentation had grown noticeably stale, gets a fancy makeover. It is due to lose an inch off its waist, with the page size becoming noticeably smaller, and it gets a sleeker image and layout.

But that's not all, the paper is also going to get a new journalistic focus. The Times will, according to the editor, Kevin O'Sullivan, engage in more investigative reporting:

'Irish Times' to change in look and size - The Irish Times - Sat, Nov 03, 2012

Exciting and all that this is, you have to ask, is this really what the Times should be focusing its resources upon? If you search the press release the words web, website or internet do not appear once. Does anyone else find this odd?

The future for newspapers is online. Getting that right, not the dead wood part of the business, is what the Irish Times should be pumping its money into.

Maybe the management of the paper realise this. As is, the Irish Times website is one of the finest in the country. But it's because of its content, not its style. It remains a plane jane newspaper website. Additionally, the mobile phone and tablet apps are pitiful.

If the Times wants to attract and hold readers it's these corners of the business that it needs to pump resources, not fancy redesigns of the newspaper that will probably only alienate its core readership who are holding out against reading it off a screen, namely elderly viscounts and crossword aficionados.
 

Munnkeyman

Moderator
Joined
Jul 14, 2010
Messages
7,189
That David Cochrane fella will probably have gone and changed the place; making it all green and white with emoticons all over the shop.
 

Disillusioned democrat

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 16, 2010
Messages
15,617
Does the new look IT address the question...."why did the IT resuscitate the career of a pariah and parasite like Peter McLoone.
 

ruserious

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 3, 2011
Messages
29,597
That David Cochrane fella will probably have gone and changed the place; making it all green and white with emoticons all over the shop.
And a Zoo for any stories that reporters nab from the Independent.
 

Analyzer

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 14, 2011
Messages
46,201
A New News Supplement to the Property Paper.....
 

mr. jings

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 31, 2008
Messages
8,095
Here's hoping they ditch the lifestyle porn circle jerk that is most of the weekend magazine.
 

jmcc

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 12, 2004
Messages
42,241
Wonder if they'll overhaul the technology section and get rid of the clueless and replace them with some people who know their stuff? The big problem for the IT is simply content. The newspaper has too many wafflers and not enough real reporters. Until it manages to address that imbalance, there is nowhere else but down for that publication.

Regards...jmcc
 

The Owl

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 11, 2011
Messages
2,967
I doubt he has the same ego in Tara St than he had here.

Although, of course, he hasn't gone way you know.
You are banned.

David Corcoran
 

Analyzer

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 14, 2011
Messages
46,201
The Irish Times gets a new look from tomorrow.
..
Exciting and all that this is, you have to ask, is this really what the Times should be focusing its resources upon? If you search the press release the words web, website or internet do not appear once. Does anyone else find this odd?

The future for newspapers is online. Getting that right, not the dead wood part of the business, is what the Irish Times should be pumping its money into.
They already have gone down the online route - and they pumped resources into it.

A mistadventure that could be termed my(money)hole dot ie.....
 

hmmm

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 4, 2006
Messages
2,834
Personally I'd like to support quality journalism in Ireland, but not at the prices the IT charges. I'd pay 10 quid a month for online access to Irish news & commentary, I am well able to source foreign news elsewhere.
 

Disillusioned democrat

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 16, 2010
Messages
15,617
Here's hoping they ditch the lifestyle porn circle jerk that is most of the weekend magazine.
...but, but....I couldn't imagine getting through a weekend without smug Roisin Ingle telling my how her life is sooooo much more luvvlly than mine.
 

gatsbygirl20

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 1, 2008
Messages
22,790
Yeah, Dave is probably meddling and tweaking the way he used to do here....You would have no sooner got used to one font, colour, layout, than Dave would be shutting down P.ie for a few hours to "streamline" things and change everything around ......

He has probably emailed everyone "How's The Irish Times doing? Open Door For Question or Comment" and now his inbox is full of whinging emails--staff flouncing and whining and denouncing each other to him....
 

ygargarin

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 1, 2012
Messages
2,356
The Irish Times gets a new look from tomorrow.

The newspaper, whose presentation had grown noticeably stale, gets a fancy makeover. It is due to lose an inch off its waist, with the page size becoming noticeably smaller, and it gets a sleeker image and layout.

But that's not all, the paper is also going to get a new journalistic focus. The Times will, according to the editor, Kevin O'Sullivan, engage in more investigative reporting:

'Irish Times' to change in look and size - The Irish Times - Sat, Nov 03, 2012

Exciting and all that this is, you have to ask, is this really what the Times should be focusing its resources upon? If you search the press release the words web, website or internet do not appear once. Does anyone else find this odd?

The future for newspapers is online. Getting that right, not the dead wood part of the business, is what the Irish Times should be pumping its money into.

Maybe the management of the paper realise this. As is, the Irish Times website is one of the finest in the country. But it's because of its content, not its style. It remains a plane jane newspaper website. Additionally, the mobile phone and tablet apps are pitiful.

If the Times wants to attract and hold readers it's these corners of the business that it needs to pump resources, not fancy redesigns of the newspaper that will probably only alienate its core readership who are holding out against reading it off a screen, namely elderly viscounts and crossword aficionados.
I wonder if the new format is the "Berliner" one that the English Guardian adopted some years ago.

Doesn't really matter, if the content and editorial policy don't change, I won't buy it. Many years ago the saturday IT was worth buying for the Weekend supplement alone. Now it's sh1te.

Douglas Gageby was a national asset.
 

YesSireeeBob

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 21, 2007
Messages
721
I wonder if the new format is the "Berliner" one that the English Guardian adopted some years ago.

Doesn't really matter, if the content and editorial policy don't change, I won't buy it. Many years ago the saturday IT was worth buying for the Weekend supplement alone. Now it's sh1te.

Douglas Gageby was a national asset.
Looks very much the same to me.

The summaries at the side of the front page have moved to the bottom and the size of the paper has been reduced.

Don't know why they had to go outside the Irish times for this 'redesign'.

Bigger Images here:
IrishTimes - Imgur











[video=youtube;_Z-Te-9SF94]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_Z-Te-9SF94[/video]
 

jmcc

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 12, 2004
Messages
42,241
Looks very much the same to me.

The summaries at the side of the front page have moved to the bottom and the size of the paper has been reduced.

Don't know why they had to go outside the Irish times for this 'redesign'.
Very much a "lipstick on a pig" solution. Being utterly cynical about it, it was probably cheaper to implement this little redesign than hire good journalists and fire the useless.

Regards...jmcc
 
Last edited:

Mitsui2

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 13, 2009
Messages
33,382
That David Cochrane fella will probably have gone and changed the place; making it all green and white with emoticons all over the shop.
Not to mention - if it's anything like the last place he was involved with - an oversupply of nutters. Though to be fair to David I guess the I Times already had John Waters long before he got there, which gave them a big head start in that department.
 

timhorgan

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 27, 2010
Messages
4,034
Memo to David Cochrane.

In the online edition almost 1/4 of a page EVERY DAY is given over to an ad extolling the virtues of "London Editor" Mark Hennessy. I have no doubt he may be an excellent journalist but it would be much better if the space was utilised to carry stories by Mark - otherwise we will all come to the conclusion that he does not really exist and the IT is doing an RTE as far as London is concerned.

Over to you, David.
 
Top