Is Fascism back?

Cai

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Among the key aspects of classical fascism are a leadership cult; an intolerance of liberalism, legal process and democracy; the myth of the nation’s special destiny, the belief that destiny being under threat and the leader as saviour; the identification of enemy groups, within and without, as hostile to the concept of the nation, and the demonization of those groups; mistrust of intellectualism, an intolerance of the traditional elite and a courting of the working and lower-middle classes in opposition to them, emphasising the victim status of the ordinary man and woman and encouraging their anger; and a tolerance for and at times advocacy of the legitimacy of violence to solve problems.

Much of this is getting horribly familiar on both sides of the Atlantic.

Are we moving forward to the past?
 


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Or more to the point is the threat of fascism going to be used by a fearful and discredited political class as a ploy to massively restrict democratic freedoms, abolish privacy, and tighten state control? Why is it that countries are misgoverned on a massive scale, the problem somehow lies with powerless citizens and not the people who did the governing? And why is it then people people are sick of choosing from a menu where every item is vetting by the 1% to the extent that they do begin to create alternatives, that the fascist bogeyman appears? People are not longing for the 1940s ffs. They would settle for the 1990s.
 

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Fascism is back if you challenge the career politician and corrupt establishment in western countries .If you beat them in a referendum or an election after they have vilified you , spun lies , hate used the msm media to degrade you , you then become Hilter or mussolini 2 .
 
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Among the key aspects of classical fascism are a leadership cult; an intolerance of liberalism, legal process and democracy; , the belief that destiny being under threat and the leader as saviour; the identification of enemy groups, within and without, as hostile to the concept of the nation, and the demonization of those groups; mistrust of intellectualism, an intolerance of the traditional elite and a courting of the working and lower-middle classes in opposition to them, emphasising the victim status of the ordinary man and woman and encouraging their anger; and a tolerance for and at times advocacy of the legitimacy of violence to solve problems.

Much of this is getting horribly familiar on both sides of the Atlantic.

Are we moving forward to the past?

Ultra left strikes all those boxes, only one I deleted was reference to "blood and nation". You can substitute "class" for that nonsense.
 

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This is like a dodgy cover band of Fascisms greatest hits.

It sounds the same but theres no talent.
 

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The current system is not working and needs to be changed. If any Western country, running up deficits as they are, were a business, they'd be closed down in the morning. Only the elite and connected are benefitting from the current set-up and all the time the debt clock just whizzes on. It's a disaster, economic, cultural and spiritual

It is unfortuntate that the necesssary alternative is automatically labelled 'fascist', but that of course is a marketing ploy by those in charge. We offer you no alternative they say, because the alternative is inherently evil. Well, I'd say to them, I'd rather live in a well run and organised 'fascist' society, one with values and one that offers people a sense of worth and belonging than the current mess we have, and that's without considering the Islamisation, immigration, etc.

If you want a change, it seems you're by default a fascist-sad but true!
 

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Ultra left strikes all those boxes, only one I deleted was reference to "blood and nation". You can substitute "class" for that nonsense.
Uh a lot of the Ultra-Left have no liking for the working class no mind seeing them as superior.
 

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It all started turning to shyte after 9/11. That let the deep state off the hook so that they didn't even pretend to respect democracy any more. That is where your real threat lies- the security apparatus of the major states. The extremists are the ones in power, not the p1ssed off citizens.
 

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Tis like flared trousers ugly but comes and goes.
 

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Ultra left strikes all those boxes, only one I deleted was reference to "blood and nation". You can substitute "class" for that nonsense.
Mistrust of intellectualism?

The substitution of class for nation isn't a trivial change.
 

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Among the key aspects of classical fascism are a leadership cult; an intolerance of liberalism, legal process and democracy; the myth of the nation’s special destiny, the belief that destiny being under threat and the leader as saviour; the identification of enemy groups, within and without, as hostile to the concept of the nation, and the demonization of those groups; mistrust of intellectualism, an intolerance of the traditional elite and a courting of the working and lower-middle classes in opposition to them, emphasising the victim status of the ordinary man and woman and encouraging their anger; and a tolerance for and at times advocacy of the legitimacy of violence to solve problems.

Much of this is getting horribly familiar on both sides of the Atlantic.

Are we moving forward to the past?
What's the term for the widespread wholesale liberal intolerance?
 


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