Is France Falling Apart Thread?


Clanrickard

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That really is nothing much more than a bunch of very empty slogans. Well done on inserting a name into the spaces in what really amounts to a meaningless spew of drivel.
Well put sir. Bokuden does love his socialist word salads.
 

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Yeah....i like the French for not giving up on this and they have a point.....the cost of living is getting out of control and something needs to change big time...

The bit i don't agree with other posters on or the Brexiteers is throwing the baby out with the bathwater....if you don't like the way the EU is run then change who is running it at the ballot box instead of running away....
Well, they tried at the ballot box, and they French got the liar Macron, The Yanks got the liar Trump. We got a government who only recieved 20 percent of the first preference vote and an unelcted taioseach, yet this miorty STILL manage to inflict their disgusting policies on the vast majority who didn't vote for them. This is what arrogant liberals like CatullusV completely miss: The actual system is not delivering for the majority. People are beinning to lose faith in the democratic process as it just seems to make things worse for the majority while a miority get richer and richer. This is an extremely dangerous precendent to set. it's why, if they really care about saving democratic institutions, mainstream political leaders need to return to FDR, post war socialdemocracy for a while. Instead, they are just lettling the market, banks and private interests dictate terms. If it happens, the lurch towards fascism will be the fault of the mainstream political parties, including Fine gael and Fianna Fail.
 

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Well put sir. Bokuden does love his socialist word salads.
More tripe from the Jordan Peterson fanboy. What's interesting is that a 'mainstream' political adherent like CattullusV and a neo liberal nutter like you both agree. It says it all about the mess politics has found itself in.
 

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More tripe from the Jordan Peterson fanboy. What's interesting is that a 'mainstream' political adherent like CattullusV and a neo liberal nutter like you both agree. It says it all about the mess politics has found itself in.
Proud to say I am a fan of Jordan Peterson. Obviously a left wing soyboy like yourself isn't.
 

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Proud to say I am a fan of Jordan Peterson. Obviously a left wing soyboy like yourself isn't.
Indeed. You have just revealed (again) your intellectual slothfulness: Which basically renders most of your other observations and political 'arguments' laughable. You really need to go off and get yourself an education. Or you could just keep voting for charlatans, fools and rogues.
 

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Macron welcomes people of Venezuela, who went on streets
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Some new opinion polls for the May Euros in France:-

Macron's LREM 22-23%; RN 17-20%; Gilets Jaunes 7-13%; Les Republicains 11-12%; Melenchon's FI 7-9%; the Greens 6-9%; the old PS 4-6%. It's noticeable that the RN goes up or down somewhat depending on whether the GJ are included, though not dramatically.
 

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Well, they tried at the ballot box, and they French got the liar Macron, The Yanks got the liar Trump. We got a government who only recieved 20 percent of the first preference vote and an unelcted taioseach, yet this miorty STILL manage to inflict their disgusting policies on the vast majority who didn't vote for them. This is what arrogant liberals like CatullusV completely miss: The actual system is not delivering for the majority. People are beinning to lose faith in the democratic process as it just seems to make things worse for the majority while a miority get richer and richer. This is an extremely dangerous precendent to set. it's why, if they really care about saving democratic institutions, mainstream political leaders need to return to FDR, post war socialdemocracy for a while. Instead, they are just lettling the market, banks and private interests dictate terms. If it happens, the lurch towards fascism will be the fault of the mainstream political parties, including Fine gael and Fianna Fail.
well said
 

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The French have the surrender instinct , they aren’t tough (possibly why they have great writers and poets ) . The advantage of this is that the government will surrender (I already called it months ago) . Nothing will come of this, even their rebels will quit.
 

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France supports child molesting film directors, it is their culture. Roman Polanski is free there. Their PM could have sex with beautiful 18-21 year olds but he prefers old women. France is lost.
 

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It looks like the 2022 French election may be a repeat of 2017, albeit closer. Latest poll showing Macron 30% and Le Pen 27% in first round, and then Macron wins 56/44 in run-off. Melenchon and the Republicans' Wauquiez making little impact at 12% and 8% respectively. Obviously it's ridiculously early days but at the moment there doesn't seem to be anyone else significant emerging.

2022 French presidential election - Wikipedia
 

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The mainstream media won't tell us what's happening in France, that is clear. I think a good source is English blogger John Ward ("The Slog"). Ward, with a background in Old Labour (he hates New Labour just about as much as the Tories), worked in PR in London for years and knows Westminster inside out. He retired some years ago and moved to France. Here's his latest take [MIC = Military Industrial Complex]:

Macrony le Wunderkind is not doing terribly well at the minute. The Gilets Jaunes have exacerbated his already parlous spending deficit to the point where it now sits at an embarrassing 35%. His Prime Minister wants to bring in repressive laws that the National Assembly isn’t keen on. The Jaunes just keep on becoming more popular….so much so, the despicable Antifa has now targeted them as suitable material for a good duffing-up – in its normal Sturm Abteilung manner. Hence the headline at the bottom there: ‘Where is the way out of this social crisis?’

France is divided at the moment by its view of one man – the President – and what he represents – viz, the MIC-banking-superbloc he represents….and which, pretty obviously, got him elected. He was foisted upon the French nation by banking and corporate plus Brussels-am-Berlin funding. The caper was designed to stop the rise of populism by getting a faux-populist puppet into the Elysée.

Some among you, I’m sure, would view the above paragraph as a series of wild assertions and allegations. They aren’t wild, unsupported or alleged: they’re facts...
 

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Far-right yellow vests and far-left yellow vests fight one another. Lyon, France. :giggle:
 

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"Let's really stick it to the rich elite."
"How?" "We could smash up a bus stop"
"Yeah, just wait till those posh bas tards try n catch a bus on Monday". :rolleyes2:


[video]https://twitter.com/i/status/1094562283806703616[/video]
 

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Faz tore them a nouveau derriere in Twickers today. Blydi awful French performance.

Did Huget think that leaving of acres of lush green pastures behind the French defensive line would go unnoticed?
 

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The mainstream media won't tell us what's happening in France, that is clear. I think a good source is English blogger John Ward ("The Slog"). Ward, with a background in Old Labour (he hates New Labour just about as much as the Tories), worked in PR in London for years and knows Westminster inside out. He retired some years ago and moved to France. Here's his latest take [MIC = Military Industrial Complex]:
Whatever about the mainstream media, never look to a Little Englander to advise you on France, either. To him, they are just the jabbering wogs who begin at Calais, Darkest Africa across the Channel.

Gilets Jaunes Do a Big Favor for Emmanuel Macron

The protest group has proposed a slate of candidates for the European parliament elections. It will further fragment the French far left and far right.
Emmanuel Macron's popularity rebounds as French support for 'yellow vests' wanes

The gilets jaunes made a mistake allowing themselves to be compromised by anti-semitic elements.
 

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It looks like the 2022 French election may be a repeat of 2017, albeit closer. Latest poll showing Macron 30% and Le Pen 27% in first round, and then Macron wins 56/44 in run-off. Melenchon and the Republicans' Wauquiez making little impact at 12% and 8% respectively. Obviously it's ridiculously early days but at the moment there doesn't seem to be anyone else significant emerging.

2022 French presidential election - Wikipedia
I notice Le Pen has muted her opposition to the EU - now she just wants to see the Commission reduced to a secretariat (which would allow the big countries to boss the little ones, there being no referee). Such it seemed from her Irish Times interview.

Brexit has has some good results - leaving the Single Market is clearly economic suicide.
 
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