Is France Falling Apart Thread?

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That is one thing about England and the Union. There are currently 5 countries in the Union by my reckoning. The South-East of England, The Rest of England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland.
 


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But lagging behind the three most economically depressed areas in Europe which are in the UK.
Three regions that are about to discover that Brexit will not cure any of their ills.
Personally I'm a great supporter of Brexit - from the point of view that it cuts further our political ties to GB.
That said, I suspect that Brexit will not be an easy economic ride, and I am sorry for those at the bottom of the heap that will be thrown even further under Boris's feet. Small consolation they will receive there.
 

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Another disaster for Macron .His candidate for the mayoral elections , where he is desperate to do well as hes expected to get a kicking outside Paris has just had to resign.

Benjamin Griveaux , who routinely mentioned his "family and family values" ihas had to resign when a video and messages allegedly from Griveaux to a young woman appeared on social media.

Seems unusual as previously widespread French political philandering was off limits ..but those were the days of the MSM only , who turned a blind eye


So anyway , another setback for Macrons 2022 reelection bid ...Yey!!!
 

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Another disaster for Macron .His candidate for the mayoral elections , where he is desperate to do well as hes expected to get a kicking outside Paris has just had to resign.

Benjamin Griveaux , who routinely mentioned his "family and family values" ihas had to resign when a video and messages allegedly from Griveaux to a young woman appeared on social media.

Seems unusual as previously widespread French political philandering was off limits ..but those were the days of the MSM only , who turned a blind eye


So anyway , another setback for Macrons 2022 reelection bid ...Yey!!!
It may be more to do with the fact that he made himself out to be a faithful family man, and when you build your candidature on something like that, hypocrisy can be a killer.

In France, as in many European countries, infidelity is not unexpected in marriage, and as a result it is not normally an issue.
But building your public persona on shifting sands is always dangerous, and so he has discovered.

A retreat now is his best bet if he wants to retain any part his political career - a career that he began under the auspices of Dominique Strauss Kahn, BTW, another paragon of virtue. He can always hope for re-election next time round to the Assemblée Nationale, but probably nothing more in the near future.
 

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Just reading a life of Charles de Gaulle, who is supposed to have said "How can you govern a country that has 278 cheeses?"

Some dispute he said that, others dispute the figure of 278. Very French, indeed.

Another time, de Gaulle pointed out that since 1789, France has been an Empire (twice), a Republic 5 times, an Absolute Bourbon Monarchy, a Constitutional Orleans Monarchy, a quasi-fascist Corporate State (Vichy), with multiple Constitutions, all contested. I think the point may be that the way France unites is to fall apart constructively.


I recommend the book highly. Charles de Gaulle is very much a symbol to France as Winston Churchill is to Britain, only bigger.
 

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Why would anybody want Macron having any say in the running of the Eu when he is incapable of running his own Country.
Poster boy for the Red Tory Blairite Clinton faction (Right wing Market driven economics , dressed up with liberal social values to make the middle classes feel ok about themselves) that is completely over represented in the media and amongst bureaucrats
 

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Poster boy for the Red Tory Blairite Clinton faction (Right wing Market driven economics , dressed up with liberal social values to make the middle classes feel ok about themselves) that is completely over represented in the media and amongst bureaucrats
Excellent Post.
 

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Macron’s France Today.

Macron’s Eu Tomorrow ! !

Bad news for France reported in British ass-wipe rag? Meh.

The French police and their riot squads have always been the toughest and most brutal in Europe, no exceptions (except maybe Russia). During protests towards the end of France's Algerian War, the Paris police killed, not dozens, but hundreds of Muslim demonstrators. Police threw demonstrators into the Seine, where they drowned.


The police follow the requirements of the state to keep order. They will be needed if the Fascists ever take over, in which case I am sure you will praise them lyrically.
 

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the balance between authoritarianism and the principles of liberte, egalitie, fraternite is a tight and stretchy one on occasion. There's a deep state, certainly, and a reactionary element in a generally liberal population.

Paris is like a prism for France I think, although most non-Parisians in France might frown at that. Paris scares the French establishment like nothing else. The authorities can get away with so much but the population does have a red line and the Government always need to be careful of it. Their security police are no joke but even they would be wary of being seen by the arondissements as the enemy.

It can be a real hornet's nest and to be honest I think that is quite healthy. Sarkozy famously backed off very quickly when he tried at first to parachute his 20 year old son into a 100k a year job at La Defence in Paris. The dark murmuring began in the back streets. Son was stood down very quickly.
 

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Bad news for France reported in British ass-wipe rag? Meh.

The French police and their riot squads have always been the toughest and most brutal in Europe, no exceptions (except maybe Russia). During protests towards the end of France's Algerian War, the Paris police killed, not dozens, but hundreds of Muslim demonstrators. Police threw demonstrators into the Seine, where they drowned.


The police follow the requirements of the state to keep order. They will be needed if the Fascists ever take over, in which case I am sure you will praise them
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What is the point of this rambling incoherent defense of police brutality ?

Is it because its done by one of your pro EU red tory poster boys ?
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You think Firemen striking to preserve their pensions are fascists ?
You think the Gilet Jaune are fascists ?
You think the protesting Trade Union movement are fascists ?
 

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Bad news for France reported in British ass-wipe rag? Meh.

The French police and their riot squads have always been the toughest and most brutal in Europe, no exceptions (except maybe Russia). During protests towards the end of France's Algerian War, the Paris police killed, not dozens, but hundreds of Muslim demonstrators. Police threw demonstrators into the Seine, where they drowned.


The police follow the requirements of the state to keep order. They will be needed if the Fascists ever take over, in which case I am sure you will praise them lyrically.
Perhaps its the Fascists that are in Control. Certainly looks like it.
 

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What is the point of this rambling incoherent defense of police brutality ?

Is it because its done by one of your pro EU red tory poster boys ?
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You think Firemen striking to preserve their pensions are fascists ?
You think the Gilet Jaune are fascists ?
You think the protesting Trade Union movement are fascists ?
That Poster won’t recognise the Fascists even when they are beating the crap out of him !
 

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That Poster won’t recognise the Fascists even when they are beating the crap out of him !
Anything that is a threat or even challenges the EU or one of its fanboys is Fascism according to that particular poster

But the French and the Spanish , being good loyal federalists ....well they can behave in any heinous or brutal fashion , lock up any amount of democratically elected politicians, and pass any amount of repressive laws without a murmur from owedtojoy or other EU Federalist fanatics
 

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Anything that is a threat or even challenges the EU or one of its fanboys is Fascism according to that particular poster

But the French and the Spanish , being good loyal federalists ....well they can behave in any heinous or brutal fashion , lock up any amount of democratically elected politicians, and pass any amount of repressive laws without a murmur from owedtojoy or other EU Federalist fanatics
You can be as Fascist as you like so long as you are Eu-Phile ! ! !
 

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You can be as Fascist as you like so long as you are Eu-Phile ! ! !

Well Spain getas away with being quasi fascist without a peep from Brussels.

France can try take away the right to protest by beating and maiming people with military level weapons being used on peaceful protestors and some very dodgy legislation to boot (You can be barred from attending a protest on the word of a Government official - a Government official appointed by Macron!) ...again not a peep from Brussels (criticise poster boy Macron ? Mon Dieu , Non!!!!)

Austrias Freedom Party , an actual fascist party , once boycotted by the Eu , is now a part of the Macron Merkel club despite the fact they have said far far worse things about immigrants than Orban , the bete noir of the EU fanatics.
 

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When did Macron become such a Nazi?



Emmanuel Macron vows to 'win the battle' against Muslims creating separate communities in France
  • French President made the comments on a visit to a police station in Mulhouse
  • The area is considered a security concern because of tensions linked to religion
  • He lamented children taken out of school because of radical ideas linked to Islam
 

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When did Macron become such a Nazi?


How in the fook have these places got like this in the first place ? ?

Immigrants / refugees should always be put in the wealthy areas at the cost of the Virtue Signalling Wealthy to stop these situations developing.
 

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When did Macron become such a Nazi?



When he realised hes about to get his ass kicked in the upcoming elections by MLP.So hes trying to steal her thunder.

His party is in full panic mode (another 3 MPs defected from his party last week),. The President of the Rich is finding that the peasants are revolting ...but then he (like his EU mates) always thought that.
 


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