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Is it appropriate for the President to so often express left wing views attacking the free market ?


cyberianpan

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let him on...........he is only the President...........and in the opinion of this centre-right free marketer - he might have more than a point about the markets at the moment
 

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Hitch 22

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What's the problem? Let him say what he bloody likes. I don't agree with everything he says but I don't see why it should cause any bother.
 

pragmaticapproach

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No it is not appropriate. A President should be seen and not heard.
Let him spout his bs, but he should be required to debate the subject matter with anyone who challenges him.
 

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Higgins is a nonentity in Ireland and shows that the position of the president should be scrapped. But hey he writes poems so lets keep him. :roll:
 

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I think he is way overstepping the mark ?

cYp
Are you actually questioning your own belief there?

Don't be spouting nonsense.

We've had presidents sitting in the Phoenix park for years and no one would know they were there.

He's the first citizen of this country and he's expressing a view. . That's all.

If you don't like him . . Don't vote for him in 2018.
 
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john moriarty

I'm actually a bit surprised
that the man hasn't been
gassing off more. Didn't he
make a few quite 'political'
speeches shortly after his
election and then went
oddly silent?
 

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how on earth could anyone, least of all an elected president, have the audacity to say such a thing about the unquestionable wonderfulness that is the western world's free market?
 

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Michael D is starting to sound a bit like Eamon Ryan; he can solve the problems of the world now that's he's out of office.

The fine words and lofty thoughts are grand, but why didn't you do something about it when you were in government?
 
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MrFunkyBoogaloo

What Michael D actually said...

“I feel that we are at a time of great intellectual crisis insofar as I see legitimacy being leached from the representative institutions in different states,”

“The assumption [once universal suffrage] was won was that you would be able to control your own destiny,”

Fed by economists such as Hayek, the right-wing philosophy led to the Chicago School of economics under Milton Friedman: “It is as if it can’t be questioned, or contested, it is as if it can’t be turned,” he said.

“The changes that have taken place and the relationship between labour and capital have been such that hot money can move in real time,” he said, adding that politicians’ actions are judged by an invisible entity called “the markets”
 
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Ramps

how on earth could anyone, least of all an elected president, have the audacity to say such a thing about the unquestionable wonderfulness that is the western world's free market?
Actually, he should say something: thank you.
 

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It is a pity his former party don't have the same set of views
 
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simeongrimes

We knew he was a lefty when we elected him so I don't mind him speaking his mind. What is disappointing is the shallowness of the argument. Markets don't mind what a government does unless that government wants to borrow money from them. Then they decide what the risk is.

The real problem is people who believe in high state spending but can't convince people to pay the tax to support it. If the left-wing case was convincing to voters you would never have to worry about the markets.

The left has long been out of ideas and now they are running out of excuses.
 
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Ramps

We knew he was a lefty when we elected him so I don't mind him speaking his mind. What is disappointing is the shallowness of the argument. Markets don't mind what a government does unless that government wants to borrow money from them. Then they decide what the risk is.

The real problem is people who believe in high state spending but can't convince people to pay the tax to support it. If the left-wing case was convincing to voters you would never have to worry about the markets.

The left has long been out of ideas and now they are running out of excuses.
Do you think if a laissez faire capitalist were prez and he spoke of the grinding misery caused by socialism, how it was regressive, corrupt, and illogical, that he would be left alone to express his views? I reckon he'd be strung up outside 'Liberty' Hall faster than it would take them to claim their expenses for buying the rope.
 
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Ramps

They guy we nearly elected and indeed our last President were believers in enterprise and would see the role as one where supporting Irish business was very important. That is a more constructive use of the office. But I don't mind Higgins being himself. He has seven years and I am curious to see if he can come up with anything in favour of socialism as opposed to his usual rhetorical and populist attacks on "the markets". I have long been of the view that Higgins is a shallow chancer. I don't expect to here anything from him that would rise above the level of a Students Union conference.

State control worked for him of course because he owes his election to the political bias of RTE. I'm sure that doesn't cost him any sleep.
 

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The President is entitled and expected to use his intellect.
He has some constitutional powers and responsibilities and one would expect that he is mentally equipped to recognise when and how he should act . Where was Mary Mcalese on the night of national calamity of the bank guarantee ? Is the presidential role not expected to represent the voice of the people above the level of politics.?
It remains to be seen whether Michael D has anything to offer beyond rhetoric ( we hope so ) but we certainly don't want a mouse in the Aras.
 

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