Is it time for Northern gaeilgeoirí to engage in civil disobedience to achieve an ILA/Acht na Gaeilge?

diy01

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With the recent collapse of the Stormont talks there is a chance an Irish Language Act in some form will be introduced directly by London, over the head of the DUP.

Is now the time for Northern gaeilgeoirí to increase the pressure and engage in mass civil disobedience or even direct action to achieve an Acht na Gaeilge, despite the risk of further alienating more individuals in the unionist community? The Council of Europe is on the side of Irish speakers, and Belfast City Council passed a motion in favour of passing an Act last week.

One of the few public mass gatherings by Irish speakers was the Dearg le Fearg march in Belfast in 2014 (an earlier march occurred in Dublin but was more focused on the Gaeltacht and education policy in the South)

There is a tradition of civil disobedience in support of the Welsh language which stretches back nearly a century and it has lead to some significant victories for Welsh speakers. This sort of assertiveness has been lacking in Ireland for many years.


Further reading:

Poll suggests attitudes towards Irish language act more entrenched after collapse of talks
https://www.irishnews.com/news/politicalnews/2018/03/06/news/poll-suggests-attitudes-towards-irish-language-act-more-entrenched-after-collapse-of-talks-1270715/

Belfast council backs Irish language Act - unionists says it's 'stick to poke Prods in eye'
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/belfast-council-backs-irish-language-act-unionists-says-its-stick-to-poke-prods-in-eye-36673650.html

The Council of Europe has told the UK to pass laws to protect the Irish language


The Dragon Roars: The emergence of civil disobedience in Welsh language politics
http://celtic.cmrs.ucla.edu/22papers/phillips.pdf

Main pro-Welsh language organization to start "campaign of civil disobedience"
https://www.nationalia.info/new/10130/main-pro-welsh-language-organization-to-start-campaign-of-civil-disobedience

Cymdeithas yr Iaith Gymraeg (The Welsh Language Society) – Civil Disobedience for the Welsh language
https://civildisobedience100.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/day-70-cymdeithas-yr-iaith-gymraeg-the-welsh-language-society-civil-disobedience-for-the-welsh-language/
 
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theloner

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The fact that the language even exists is seen as civil disobedience by many within the DUP.

How 'Welcome to St. Mary's Park' written in Irish is seen as an 'outrageous insult' to unionists as well as causing 'much outrage and anger' within said community shows the type of gap between bigotry and reason that needs to be overcome.

DUP MLA

'Burn the buses' does have a degree of nostalgia though.
 
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hollandia

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No. This will be resolved through the courts.
 

theloner

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Do you believe civil disobedience is called for now?
As Hollandia said, the 'curry my yogurt' brigade is up against Alliance, Green Party, PBP, SDLP, Sinn Féin, Council of Europe, Conradh na Gaeilge, Belfast City Council, Taoiseach Leo Varadkar, a majority of elected MLAs from five parties, and even, dare I say it some within the higher echelons of the DUP, as seen in the leaked draft agreement that Gregory Toilet Paper lied about even existing.

That Fleggory Seawright posse of unionism is a dying breed and theloner would hazzard a guess it would enjoy a bit of gaeilgeoirí civil disobedience, hence 'let's not'. Let the amadáin defeat themselves, they've been doing it brilliantly since the GFA.

By logical extension the British would be in favour of an ILA too. As would the devolved Welsh and Scottish governments. Which leaves 'you know predictably who' is outside the tent pissing all over their own chests as usual screaming 'no surrender to the ILA'. It's pretty f*cking hilarious.
 

between the bridges

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Yes bring back the woolly faces....
 

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With the recent collapse of the Stormont talks there is a chance an Irish Language Act in some form will be introduced directly by London, over the head of the DUP.

Is now the time for Northern gaeilgeoirí to increase the pressure and engage in mass civil disobedience or even direct action to achieve an Acht na Gaeilge, despite the risk of further alienating more individuals in the unionist community?
What sort of political landscape are you dreaming in? There isn't a remote possibility of 'London' imposing an Irish Language Act over the heads of the DUP.

As for 'mass civil disobedience', what effect would a couple of dozen gaeilgeoirí marching make. I think you seriously overestimate enthusiasm for the Irish language among the communities of NI.

This is not about the language. It's about political fighting between SF and DUP and excuses not to restore power sharing.
 

theloner

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As for 'mass civil disobedience', what effect would a couple of dozen gaeilgeoirí marching make. I think you seriously overestimate enthusiasm for the Irish language among the communities of NI.
If he is overestimating, you are equally guilty of underestimating with a few dozen. The third point has a basis.

[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SuFRNtTeMyE[/video]
 

AhNowStop

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Do you believe civil disobedience is called for now?
Strange question from you .. were you not the chap from Canada on here a while back slagging off the very notion of an ILA and castigating Northerners, esp SF, for either not speaking it at all or not speaking it quite as nicely as people from Connemara ?

or am I mistaken ?


The answer to your question is "No" btw....
 
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hollandia

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What sort of political landscape are you dreaming in? There isn't a remote possibility of 'London' imposing an Irish Language Act over the heads of the DUP.

As for 'mass civil disobedience', what effect would a couple of dozen gaeilgeoirí marching make. I think you seriously overestimate enthusiasm for the Irish language among the communities of NI.

This is not about the language. It's about political fighting between SF and DUP and excuses not to restore power sharing.
Correct. But London and the Judiciary are two seperate things, as unionists have found out on many occasions.
 

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Yes bring back the woolly faces....
Would you like to see a return to the "wooly faces". I wonder, it would give you even more ammuntion to attack your neighbours then LOL. Something you seem to relish. Slán
 

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Couple of hundred zealots, Linda Ervine for PR to appease the Guardianistas, and thousands of children bussed in ..... Presumably Declan Kearney will stand in for Michelle and Mary Lou .....
You forgot to mention the late Jimmy Savile.
 

redneck

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The answer to the question is No/Níl. At the moment anyway.
 

mac tíre

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Well, the OP has decided to scrape the bottom of the barrel in his fear of An Teanga.

Taitníonn an fhírinne sin liom.
 

Barroso

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Couple of hundred zealots, Linda Ervine for PR to appease the Guardianistas, and thousands of children bussed in ..... Presumably Declan Kearney will stand in for Michelle and Mary Lou .....
You left out Ian Malcolm!
 

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Would the civil disobedience campaign involve these characters not signing on for benefits and handing back disability cars? If so I am all on for it.
 


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