Is it time to clean up news radio accents?

flavirostris

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RTE have a guy doing farming news during drivetime who has a rural accent - which sticks out like a sore thumb amongst all the strangled vowels.
'spose they couldn't really have a ross o'carroll-kelly type talking about 'loivestock'
 


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MontgomeryClift said:
What about those people (mostly women) whose voices are too high and nasal for broadcasting?
They should have stayed off the coke as teenagers...
 

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The girl who is standing in for tubridy on radio 1 (cant think of her name) is dreadfull. The accent is so false, where did she get it, very mid atlantic and she is a terrible interviewer, she also covered for joe duffy but I noticed they did not ask her back. Why cant RTE get some decent radio talent like the BBC do, get natural presenters who feel at home when doing their shows and dont worry if they dont sound posh or sophisticated, example would be derek mooney, very easy to listen to, but christ that dermot o neill does my head in with that stupid accent, cant believe chainsaw company husqvarna got him to do a radio ad, he could not pronounce the name correctly.
 

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I think some people accent can scare people away from them because there voice on the radio is like a giant, but they are very friendly in nature which does not make them look as word lauder than voice. :?
 

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The best accents for radio are those which are the most neutral. RTE had been great at this for years. I remember often not being able to differentiate between different newsreaders (of the same gender) as they all seemed to have gone to some special RTE-language training school. The radio is there to convey information and is useless if people are not able to understand that information. But if this is just people complaining even when they can understand what is being said then that is something else completely. In any case, let's get back to those neutral accents of old.
 

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Umar.Ahmed said:
The best accents for radio are those which are the most neutral. RTE had been great at this for years. I remember often not being able to differentiate between different newsreaders (of the same gender) as they all seemed to have gone to some special RTE-language training school. The radio is there to convey information and is useless if people are not able to understand that information. But if this is just people complaining even when they can understand what is being said then that is something else completely. In any case, let's get back to those neutral accents of old.

Neutral accents? Surely you mean Dublin accents. They may have sounded neutral to a Dubs. However, they weren't neutral to others.
 

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Do any of you McWilliams "categories are great" types realise how stupid and lazy the D4 label is? The only part of the postcode with a significant number of under 30's is Ringsend. The rest of it is full of middle aged curtain twitching residents association types. Almost all the people you are talking about, with that particularly annoying accent that base their conversational skills on "Friends" are from Foxrock, Dalkey, Castleknock, Clontarf, Blackrock, Booterstown, Killiney, Sutton and Templeogue - Not D4!!!
 

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alonso said:
Do any of you McWilliams "categories are great" types realise how stupid and lazy the D4 label is? The only part of the postcode with a significant number of under 30's is Ringsend. The rest of it is full of middle aged curtain twitching residents association types. Almost all the people you are talking about, with that particularly annoying accent that base their conversational skills on "Friends" are from Foxrock, Dalkey, Castleknock, Clontarf, Blackrock, Booterstown, Killiney, Sutton and Templeogue - Not D4!!!
Stop pushing your D4 agenda on us.
 

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What matters most in life is to be more responsible when we are grown up than negative thinking and been forcy sometimes. :|
 

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ah jaysus meri us dubses is de only wans that can talk proper. All dem culchies are brutil hard t'unnerstand y'know?

It;s not a D4 agenda it's just an antibogger antiknacker antifarmer antitabloid antifiannafail program to illuminate the wretched of the fact that we know better here in the boozers of Baggot st. and Wexford St. 's all
 

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It will all be removed very soon, and they'll run shat ta breath. :D
 

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alonso said:
ah jaysus meri us dubses is de only wans that can talk proper. All dem culchies are brutil hard t'unnerstand y'know?

It;s not a D4 agenda it's just an antibogger antiknacker antifarmer antitabloid antifiannafail program to illuminate the wretched of the fact that we know better here in the boozers of Baggot st. and Wexford St. 's all
arragwanouttathat, dya tink oim sum sorta tick, or sometin?

fukk off, ye muppeh.
 

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What ever about the 'Dort' accents (certainly NOT implying that they are D4 as many of them are from miles away from there) what about some of the regional reporters?

Ciaran Mulooley sings his news reports, I find it very hard to take what he says seriously. And as for Plastic Sheeting??

I love to hear 'outside the Pale' accents on radio/TV as it is representative of the population but surely a line has to be drawn on the comical. For example, Eileen Magnier has excellent delivery as does Cathy Halloran and Teresa Mannion. But Jennie O'Sullivan sounds as if she has just woken from hibernation and Jim Fahey (brilliant and all as he is) is starting to border on the comical as well.

Anyone ever notice the way Anne Doyle pronounces the word 'party'? Paaaaty. Sometimes it is like watching Nob Nation on TV!
 

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heyaw don' tell me ti fuukk off ya dorty bolleex!

See it is more fun when we speak the way we should!!!
At least newstalk broadcast the word bollix every night on Off the Ball. Paul Kimmage was it? referring to some bikejockey I believe....
 

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It's a horrible, horrible accent alright. It's consciously morphing itself in to a Californian accent, which is the really annoying thing about it. These people don't speak like their parents - they've actually taken the decision to talk in this horrible way because they watch too much US TV/movies and they like to think of their lives as being similar to the ****s out of Sex in the City or those clowns off Friends. They actually go the whole hog on some radio stations like spin 103.8 and have some bint doing their adverts with full blown yank accent. I'm not sure there's such a thing as a neutral accent, but it would be great to hear a few more regional accents and actual Dublin accents on the radio, but this trend, sadly, is only likely to go in one direction. When was the last time there was a Dublin accent on the radio outside of a late night phone in show?
 

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I have to agree, it is time to clean up many of the radio accents on our national and local airwaves. But change might be hard to bring about as there appears to be a supportive environment for these irritating accents within top management in broadcasting media, which is evident by the growing number of female presenters, but aslo male presenters, who are guilty of this offence increasingly popping up all over.

I ususally listen to radio 1 and I find it to be reasonably okay, the problem has not occured to any great extent at present but it is gradually happening. The only presenters I can not stand are Aine Lawlor(mildly mislike), Mary Wilson, both for her voice and sharp questioning and the current sub for Ryan Tubridy has a hybird Irish/American accent, who also presents a weekend cultural program or so she did. On TV, Miriam O'Callanagh is perhaps the worst both on Primetime but moreso on Miriam Tonight.

I do like Pat Kenny, Racheal English(sad to see her leave 5-7live) Susan Byrne(prefer her on radio..very elegent) and Micheal Murphy(same qualities in his voice as David Hanley), Killian(from Primetime). I find Susan Byrne and Micheal Murphy a pleasure to listen to.

In regards to RTE TV, I find many of the girls to be the worst offenders. Laura Woods, who happens to be also on 2fm has an accent that is just dreadful and extremely hard to listen to, while she is from south Dublin and has brought or socialised into that particualar 'SCD' mentality and accent, she overemphasises it to painful levels. There are also many others in RTE, especially the younger girls, but also some guys who are irritating to listen to.

The other Radio and TV stations, especially the Dublin stations, seem to be worst affected. FM104, Newstalk all have presenters with this painful quasi high speed Irish-American nasal accent. TV3, its nighly news presenters, esp that Fitzpatrick lady who has this grating high pitched accent. I often wonder why she is allowed to present the nightly news, its high pitched, often nasal and very sharp. But it is not all women, most of the men on private radio all sound like 2fm Djs.

I believe that news presenters such have clear, paced, understandable and pleasurable accents. I have no problem with regional accents, as long as they too are clear and understandable. In fact, BBC radio has adopted a policy of encouraging regional accents. In Ireland, I absolutely adore Derek Davis when he used to step in for Joe Duffy, Derek is perhaps my favourable radio voice. Joe Duffy is another example of a nice local accent which is pleasurable to listen to.
 

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How true. And next time I hear one of those AA Roadwatch types inviting someone to text in traffic news to them with the haughty caveat, "but not while driving" I'll throw that radio out the window. I don't text while driving, I don't use the mobile phone at all in fact while I'm driving but I'm not going to take lectures on some stuffed up, self appointed traffic policing AA Roadwatcher type.
 

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euroboy said:
In Ireland, I absolutely adore Derek Davis when he used to step in for Joe Duffy, Derek is perhaps my favourable radio voice. Joe Duffy is another example of a nice local accent which is pleasurable to listen to.
OK, I'll give you Derek Davis, but Joe Duffy a pleasure to listen to..........? Seriously, you've lost me..... Ignore his accent, when you are that big a rabble rouser your accent is irrelvent.
 

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I don't like Joe Duffy or his show very much but I don't mind his accent (if that makes any sense)It's an ordinary accent that anyone coming from his neck of the woods would speak with. He's easy to understand, even for a culchie like me :p Regional accents are fine as long as they're easy to understand. It's this awful Dortspeak that is objectionable. When someone talks like that, they're making a statement.
 

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Yes! Those accents are unbearable, I actually can't listen to them! Did you hear the ad for the horse show in the RDS? My God...where did this accent come from?!
 


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