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Is it time to close the Dail Bar?


topcat4

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Is it time to close the Dail Bar, some still photos from the packed Dail Bar last, on here and on other sites.

Is this the image we want people to see from our legislature when in emergency session discussing the financial future of not only now, but given the nature of what was being discussed, of future generations also.

We then had the spectacle of a raucous Dail, with TD's from Fine Gael and Labour quite obviously steamed up, heckling Pearse Doherty when he was making his 15 minute contribution.

At one stage he actually turned and addressed the hecklers telling them to "go back to the bar"

Surely its time to close this facility at what is supposed to be a place of work.
 


ger12

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Yes. Drinking on the job, not very professional is it.
 

emulator

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Yes.

Maybe someone could bring a bill forward for that..... it's an absolute disgrace. There was one TD I saw that was visibly drunk when he was heckling Doherty.
 

Sister Mercedes

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Des Bishop has a new programme starting tonight about Ireland and booze.

Under the Influence New series. The comedian explores Ireland's relationship with alcohol and other addictive commodities, revealing how he has been tee-total since the age of 19. He asks if the general public are in denial about the issue, if there is such a thing as an addictive personality and investigates what part society plays in encouraging excessive behaviour.
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harshreality

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Dutch courage is the only kind of courage most of the government will ever know, take that away and all that is left is a spineless pile of jelly on the floor of the Dáil.
 

niall78

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Yes.

In no other place of work is it acceptable to be actively drinking. In most jobs even having a hangover would be considered very bad form let alone boozing when important work is supposed to be happening.
 

carruthers

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They'll just tip over to Buswells. They certainly should no longer be able to run tabs in it.
 

True Republican

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I wouldn't close the dail bar permanently but It certainly should have been closed the whole day yesterday given the legislation that was about to be rammed through the dail.
 

Kev408

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Damn Wright it's time to close the bar.
 

emulator

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I wouldn't close the dail bar permanently but It certainly should have been closed the whole day yesterday given the legislation that was about to be rammed through the dail.
It's probably for that very reason that they had it open....
 

niall78

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They'll just tip over to Buswells. They certainly should no longer be able to run tabs in it.
We'll have to test them for drink in that case if they can't be trusted not to drink when they should be working.
 

livingstone

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No. It shouldn't be subsidised, and the Ceann Comhairle should be absolute in refusing to admit TDs who are under the influence. But in a workplace that - rightly - expects staff (not just TDs but the whole range of staff) to be at work sometimes until midnight or later then there is really no need to close it.

It's a bit like saying that because drunken louts populate the street, that pubs should be banned generally rather than just dealing with drunken louts. If a TD, or his staff, are expected to work late into the night (and often spending lots fo that time waiting around for votes or for issues to be clarified, I really don't have a problem with them having access to a bar to have a drink while they wait).
 

True Republican

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People are allowed to have a pint aren't they, it would be very self righteous to be calling for the dail bar to be closed permanently.
 

niall78

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But in a workplace that - rightly - expects staff (not just TDs but the whole range of staff) to be at work sometimes until midnight or later then there is really no need to close it.
Do all the other workers in the country who work late or do overtime need a bar and need to drink alcohol?
 

topcat4

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People are allowed to have a pint aren't they, it would be very self righteous to be calling for the dail bar to be closed permanently.
Its a place of work, and absolutely people are allowed to have a pint.

A pint in a pub like the rest of us, when your in your own leisure time.
 

dizillusioned

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Looking at that fiasco last night. It was VERY apparent that some should not have been "working". There was obviously drink taken by many. Why do we need a bar in the Dail?

The other VERY annoying and insulting actions last night were the use of mobile phones in the Dail.

EVERYTIME Rabitte was on camera (apart from his grand-standing with Martin) he was glued to his iPhone. Now I am sure there is little that could be communicated DURING a debate that would necessitate the use of a mobile phone. In business you go outside to take a call, rarely look at a phone if in an important meeting. 30 Billion debt being transferred directly to sovereign debt is slightly important I would have thought!
 

cllr

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Have people interested in Politics really become this boring. keep it open I say.
 

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