Is it time to end Judge for life system ?


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Appointed as a Judge you are then there for life where it is almost impossible to remove you while the start picks up the cost.

Again and again we see a Justice syste where it is difficult to get sent to jail as Judges seem willing to grant licence to people to go out and recommit crimes.

Is it time for all judges to be appointed on fixed terms going forward.

No Judge with exception of Supreme Court may hold a position for more than 10 years, with some positions only being for 5 years.

In order to prevent a situation where a Govt of the day would appoint all Judges, a maximum of 10% of Judges per year can be appointed by a sitting Govt so in a 5 year term.

It would I believe require a constitutional change but Justice should be for the people, by the people and seemingly in existing Judicial system its by the judges for their friends.
 

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It would I believe require a constitutional change but Justice should be for the people, by the people and seemingly in existing Judicial system its by the judges for their friends.
No, justice should be by the law and for the law. Making judges accountable to public opinion encourages mob rule and the diminution of all sorts of human rights.
 

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No. The public opinion is irrelevant when it comes to the administration of law, and it is not for the public. It would also hamper judicial independence.
 
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No, justice should be by the law and for the law. Making judges accountable to public opinion encourages mob rule and the diminution of all sorts of human rights.
But it is not accountable by the law or for the law is it ?

When someone repeatly breaks the law and gets told to put something in the poor bix as way of recompsense.

What Human Rights have victims when people destroying their lives are allowed to get back on the streets quickly.
 
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That's right. I don't even think judges should be appointed by governments. Judges should be fully independent from governments.
So basically Judges get to be appointed and then do as they like............... unaccountable to anbody.
 

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So basically Judges get to be appointed and then do as they like............... unaccountable to anbody.
Wrong.

There are numerous legal reliefs and and appeals system.
 

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We need elected Judges

- couldn't see many of the current crop last long on the Perch if that were the case!
And there's a very good reason why, as I outlined already. Not good to pander to the mob.
 

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Appointed as a Judge you are then there for life where it is almost impossible to remove you while the start picks up the cost.

Again and again we see a Justice syste where it is difficult to get sent to jail as Judges seem willing to grant licence to people to go out and recommit crimes.

Is it time for all judges to be appointed on fixed terms going forward.

No Judge with exception of Supreme Court may hold a position for more than 10 years, with some positions only being for 5 years.

In order to prevent a situation where a Govt of the day would appoint all Judges, a maximum of 10% of Judges per year can be appointed by a sitting Govt so in a 5 year term.

It would I believe require a constitutional change but Justice should be for the people, by the people and seemingly in existing Judicial system its by the judges for their friends.
If you think the current system is for the judges friends what do you think would happen if judges had to try to re-establish a law practice after 5 or 10 years?

Would we even get good quality lawyers to take on judicial positions under such a regime?
 
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If you think the current system is for the judges friends what do you think would happen if judges had to try to re-establish a law practice after 5 or 10 years?

Would we even get good quality lawyers to take on judicial positions under such a regime?
So it is about WEALTH and PRESTIGE rather than administration of Justice.
 

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They are not accountable, rarely if ever get removed, have zero sanction for incompetence and you say they don't get to do as they like,
Of course they’re accountable. How many other professionals have their work criticized in public by their colleagues?
 

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But it is not accountable by the law or for the law is it ?

When someone repeatly breaks the law and gets told to put something in the poor bix as way of recompsense.

What Human Rights have victims when people destroying their lives are allowed to get back on the streets quickly.
It's the prerogative and duty of the Oireachtas to address issues like that. If we made repeat offending a separate offence that carried an automatic custodial sentence on top of the sentence for the base crime it would reduce re-offending.
 
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