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Is Minister Deenihan using a cudgel to make some of Irelands artists actually work?


The Field Marshal

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Its refreshing to see a Labour and Fg minister for once putting the boot into the Irish arts community.

My own view is that its time all artists in receipt of public funds were indeed obligated to do real payback.

One professor Ciaran Benson writing in the last Sunday Business Post complains about Irish Ministers Deenihan and Quinn creating an Orwellian climate for Irish artists.

Bensons complaint is based upon an objection to the Irish taxpayer imposing a mandate on Irish artists in receipt of state funding to give a public service dividend by way of return.
He says only artist are being obliged to donate such a dividend and they are being singled out.

He moans because Irelands arts community in receipt of massive public funding are actually for once going to be made do some real work for the taxpayers who fund their lifestyle.

I am unable to access the article from Professor Benson as its worth a read for the sheer whinge value alone.
I would appreciate if any other poster could do so.

Here are some links to relevant publications on the matter

Statement of strategy 2011-2014 by Minister Deenihan & Co
http://www.ahg.gov.ie/en/AboutUs/StatementofStrategy/FINAL SOS ENGLISH 16.4.pdf

Arts in education charter published by Minister Deenihan & Co
http://www.ahg.gov.ie/en/Arts/ProjectsandProgrammes/ArtsInEducation/Press Release for Arts in Education Charter.pdf
 
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The Field Marshal

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Surely you didn't need to be told?
Have you something to add to the discussion or is parroting the ad hominem comments of others all you are able to do.?
 

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The Field Marshal

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It's my input.
So your first input is to try derail the thread with an ad hominem attack on the poster who posts an OP.
 

The Field Marshal

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What would you see as 'real payback'? FM
Real payback?

Well any artist in receipt of public funds would have to donate free time to public education.
 

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FM,

TL, DR,

however if you are getting a stipend from the state, you better justify it with outputs other than trips to Nepal.
 

The Field Marshal

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FM,

TL, DR,

however if you are getting a stipend from the state, you better justify it with outputs other than trips to Nepal.
The professor Benson is complaining that Irish citizens are being refferred to as customers by the Dept of Arts.

Has he any real point?
 
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Your input is suspiciously similar to 'orebel's input.

Coincidence or collusion?
Perhaps a reaction based on a shared view of Mousey's OP - neither coincidence nor collusion, more a case of action at a distance.:D
 

The Field Marshal

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Perhaps a reaction based on a shared view of Mousey's OP - neither coincidence nor collusion, more a case of action at a distance.:D
In other words non engagement and a public admission that you are trying to derail the thread.
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