Is our very weak government a risk in planning for Brexit?

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Few, if any, commentators would argue that our current government is very, very weak.

With FF as its crutch and a few rag tag independents to make up the numbers in the Dail and the cabinet, the current FG government are probably the weakest we've had in decades (bar the dying days of the Cowen farce). A far cry from the 2011 FG government that could have made real reforms happen if they had been bothered.

Any government that has Zappone as a minister is deadman walking as far as many are concerned.

Anyway - with Brexit looming - potentially the biggest challenge we face economically and politically, are we running a huge risk having such a weak government in place and should we be actually looking for something more like a "war cabinet" and national government for the next few years as we plan and execute around the transition of our biggest trading partner and probably only real friend in Europe out of the EU?
 


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Anyway - with Brexit looming - potentially the biggest challenge we face economically and politically, are we running a huge risk having such a weak government in place and should we be actually looking for something more like a "war cabinet" and national government for the next few years as we plan and execute around the transition of our biggest trading partner and probably only real friend in Europe out of the EU?
Daft suggestion, most TDs have no interest in serving in govt, we got what we voted for. Possibly, by the time we have the next election we may know what the Brits want from Brexit.
 

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Few, if any, commentators would argue that our current government is very, very weak.

With FF as its crutch and a few rag tag independents to make up the numbers in the Dail and the cabinet, the current FG government are probably the weakest we've had in decades (bar the dying days of the Cowen farce). A far cry from the 2011 FG government that could have made real reforms happen if they had been bothered.

Any government that has Zappone as a minister is deadman walking as far as many are concerned.

Anyway - with Brexit looming - potentially the biggest challenge we face economically and politically, are we running a huge risk having such a weak government in place and should we be actually looking for something more like a "war cabinet" and national government for the next few years as we plan and execute around the transition of our biggest trading partner and probably only real friend in Europe out of the EU?
Should we not be activrly planning new transport routes now which bypass the uk for eu goods ?
 

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Please zoo this nonsenses. Almost every commentator has said the government has done an excellent job. There really is nothing more they can do.
 

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Should we not be activrly planning new transport routes now which bypass the uk for eu goods ?
We should be planning a significant number of initiatives to reduce the impact and/or maximise the opportunity, but we're not and even if we were, this government doesn't seem to have the focus or numbers to get things done.
 

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Few, if any, commentators would argue that our current government is very, very weak.

With FF as its crutch and a few rag tag independents to make up the numbers in the Dail and the cabinet, the current FG government are probably the weakest we've had in decades (bar the dying days of the Cowen farce). A far cry from the 2011 FG government that could have made real reforms happen if they had been bothered.

Any government that has Zappone as a minister is deadman walking as far as many are concerned.

Anyway - with Brexit looming - potentially the biggest challenge we face economically and politically, are we running a huge risk having such a weak government in place and should we be actually looking for something more like a "war cabinet" and national government for the next few years as we plan and execute around the transition of our biggest trading partner and probably only real friend in Europe out of the EU?
Our only real friend! What planet are you on?
 

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Please zoo this nonsenses. Almost every commentator has said the government has done an excellent job. There really is nothing more they can do.
REALLY????

Varadkar is betting the farm on a soft border based on a rational withdrawal by Britian and a bit of a climb down by May, but that's because it suits him because there's no need to act and, sure, if it goes pear shaped it's not his fault - nothing ever is:roll:.

The Dutch are currently recruiting 5000 new customs officials...we're doing NOTHING.
 

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REALLY????

Varadkar is betting the farm on a soft border based on a rational withdrawal by Britian and a bit of a climb down by May, but that's because it suits him because there's no need to act and, sure, if it goes pear shaped it's not his fault - nothing ever is:roll:.

The Dutch are currently recruiting 5000 new customs officials...we're doing NOTHING.
The government got the border issue up front and centre in negotiations with the EU and the UK. It was widely considered a diplomatic triumph.
 

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REALLY????

Varadkar is betting the farm on a soft border based on a rational withdrawal by Britian and a bit of a climb down by May, but that's because it suits him because there's no need to act and, sure, if it goes pear shaped it's not his fault - nothing ever is:roll:.

The Dutch are currently recruiting 5000 new customs officials...we're doing NOTHING.
The EU and the UK agreed to it last Dec.

It will be fun to see all the clowns blame the Irish government when the EU chicken out of what was agreed.
 

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Leo has more people in his office working for the Spin for Leo team than there are people working on Brexit.
 

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Few, if any, commentators would argue that our current government is very, very weak.
Specifically which commentators have said the government's approach to Brexit is weak. Links?


With FF as its crutch and a few rag tag independents to make up the numbers in the Dail and the cabinet, the current FG government are probably the weakest we've had in decades (bar the dying days of the Cowen farce). A far cry from the 2011 FG government that could have made real reforms happen if they had been bothered.
Absolutely. Sher they're in the doldrums of the polls as well. That's why all the other parties are doing so much better than them. And the dissent from SF, FF and Lab about the current Brexit approach is deafening.

Any government that has Zappone as a minister is deadman walking as far as many are concerned.
Any link to support this? Polls? Anything?

Anyway - with Brexit looming - potentially the biggest challenge we face economically and politically, are we running a huge risk having such a weak government in place and should we be actually looking for something more like a "war cabinet" and national government for the next few years as we plan and execute around the transition of our biggest trading partner
They're not.

and probably only real friend in Europe out of the EU?
Absolutely. Sher remember the 800 years they babysat us? They're our besties. Forget about the fact that May promised something just 4 months ago and is trying to row back on it. That's history. Forget the united front the other 26 EU countries have shown in supporting Ireland's current stance on Brexit.

Of all your boring "Jaysus isn't everything crap" OPs, this is lower quartile. It's not your laziest, you've had plenty with less thought put into them, but certainly in terms of deliberately misunderstanding a situation to suit your own mindset; it's towards the bottom of the barrel.
 

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Few, if any, commentators would argue that our current government is very, very weak.

With FF as its crutch and a few rag tag independents to make up the numbers in the Dail and the cabinet, the current FG government are probably the weakest we've had in decades (bar the dying days of the Cowen farce). A far cry from the 2011 FG government that could have made real reforms happen if they had been bothered.

Any government that has Zappone as a minister is deadman walking as far as many are concerned.

Anyway - with Brexit looming - potentially the biggest challenge we face economically and politically, are we running a huge risk having such a weak government in place and should we be actually looking for something more like a "war cabinet" and national government for the next few years as we plan and execute around the transition of our biggest trading partner and probably only real friend in Europe out of the EU?
No.
 

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We should be planning a significant number of initiatives to reduce the impact and/or maximise the opportunity, but we're not and even if we were, this government doesn't seem to have the focus or numbers to get things done.
How the fvck do you make that claim?
 

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Leo has more people in his office working for the Spin for Leo team than there are people working on Brexit.
:roll: Jesus, the dopes are out in force today. Half the Civil Service are working on Brexit.
 

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Zoo this rubbish. The govt is doing an excellent job on the EU negotiations. The UK is threatening, blustering and dodging, and they have been held to account each time.
 

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Absolutely. Sher remember the 800 years they babysat us? They're our besties. Forget about the fact that May promised something just 4 months ago and is trying to row back on it. That's history. Forget the united front the other 26 EU countries have shown in supporting Ireland's current stance on Brexit.

Of all your boring "Jaysus isn't everything crap" OPs, this is lower quartile. It's not your laziest, you've had plenty with less thought put into them, but certainly in terms of deliberately misunderstanding a situation to suit your own mindset; it's towards the bottom of the barrel.

Yes, without question let's back the EU, dominated by the country who in living rampaged over Europe murdering millions in its quest to wipe out an entire race of people. Sure they are our besties now.

Those from 800 years ago that we invited to this island can remain our sworn enemies.
 

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Yes, without question let's back the EU, dominated by the country who in living rampaged over Europe murdering millions in its quest to wipe out an entire race of people. Sure they are our besties now.

Those from 800 years ago that we invited to this island can remain our sworn enemies.
If the EU is so dominated by Germany, how come so many of Germany's red lines during the financial crisis were just washed away?
 


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